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All In With The Nuts
The "Get A Life" Shatner is still spry & active...
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Things you love about Star Trek
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The Beer Hall Pooch
Too Evil To Worship
The Beer Hall Pooch
Too Evil To Worship
I actually remember all this crap... so funny looking back.
Eggs Mayonnaise
All In With The Nuts
Colonel Kira's Left Tit
Bearded Belly of Bajor
Oh, here's a show-stopper, I actually found something amusing over at Turdforge!
Colonel Kira's Left Tit
Bearded Belly of Bajor
I actually like it for a variety of reasons now. It's probably at the bottom of my TOS movie rankings still, but it's not a bad character piece. The effects were... ummm, less than optimal and the story was kind of out there, but it is the most TOS series-like of the movies, with the Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic.
And I believe this is the 37th anniversary of its release as well?
Phil Collins
Sussudio
Star Trek V is a deeply flawed movie, but there's enough in there to like that I always enjoyed it. I think "What does God need with a starship?" was a formative moment for me and remains one of my earliest memories. I've driven grocery store clerks to the brink of madness asking where they stock their "marshmellons." Sure it's a season 3 episode, but it's not a bad one.
The Beer Hall Pooch
Too Evil To Worship
I remember seeing it in theater and basically enjoying it... but when it was over, I sat there thinking "that's it?"
It's almost like Shatner mailed this one in.
STVI... much better.
The Beer Hall Pooch
Too Evil To Worship
An interesting study of the Federation's lifestyle and approach to politics.
Loktar
Internet God and Defender of Park Benches
ST2,4,6. FTW.
The Beer Hall Pooch
Too Evil To Worship
That's been the general wisdom for years, and I agree with it.
Volpone
Zombie Hunter
I am the outlier. You know how people often think "The Empire Strikes Back" is the strongest "Star Wars" film? At the time, it was my least favorite. Because it is the low point in the story. It ends with the rebels beaten and on the run. But you need that to set up the resolution in "...Jedi." That's the way I feel about "ST III: TSFS." Thought it was weak and disliked it at the time. Today it is one of my favorite 'Trek films.
Conversely, "ST VI: TUC" was a lot of fun at the time, but now I feel it is flawed by production issues. The biggest one is casting and having Valeris instead of Saavik. The story takes on so much more weight with Saavik being the Baddie--now that I think about it, it even brings full circle Saavik learning from Kirk about the Kobayashi Maru test; she learns sometimes you have to break rules to do the right thing and follows Kirk's example by trying to prevent peace. But they couldn't get Kirstie Alley and didn't want Robin Curtis. And they didn't want to recast the character yet again so instead Spock has some random new protege.
Then there's the uniforms. Saavi, er, Valeris is a Star Fleet officer but inexplicably wears a cadet turtleneck. The rank insignia are all over the place. I don't even remember now, but I think Scotty is a commander again, random stuff like that. "Screw it, whatever costume stuff we have available is going to have to do."
For that matter, I guess you kind of need Kirk to survive at the end, but with Nimoy's guest run as Spock on "ST: TNG," it sounded like he had a lot deeper regrets than getting Kirk out of a tight spot and saving the galaxy again.
Well, should get going. Adventures and headaches to deal with.
Conversely, "ST VI: TUC" was a lot of fun at the time, but now I feel it is flawed by production issues. The biggest one is casting and having Valeris instead of Saavik. The story takes on so much more weight with Saavik being the Baddie--now that I think about it, it even brings full circle Saavik learning from Kirk about the Kobayashi Maru test; she learns sometimes you have to break rules to do the right thing and follows Kirk's example by trying to prevent peace. But they couldn't get Kirstie Alley and didn't want Robin Curtis. And they didn't want to recast the character yet again so instead Spock has some random new protege.
Then there's the uniforms. Saavi, er, Valeris is a Star Fleet officer but inexplicably wears a cadet turtleneck. The rank insignia are all over the place. I don't even remember now, but I think Scotty is a commander again, random stuff like that. "Screw it, whatever costume stuff we have available is going to have to do."
For that matter, I guess you kind of need Kirk to survive at the end, but with Nimoy's guest run as Spock on "ST: TNG," it sounded like he had a lot deeper regrets than getting Kirk out of a tight spot and saving the galaxy again.
Well, should get going. Adventures and headaches to deal with.
The Beer Hall Pooch
Too Evil To Worship
Which brings up a side point (for me at least): one of the almost fatal flaws of the TOS movies was that we went from the hotness of Kirstie Alley to the Dollar General Store Manager appearance of Robin Curtis to the cold cuteness of Kim Catrall.