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Buffy: Slayer of the Vampyrs.

Mentalist

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So, it's happening. Buffy is back. This was always inevitable, and the only surprise is that it's taken this long. Still, best believe I did a double take when I saw the news.

The HUGE takeaway? SMG is returning. This pleases me, though I don’t think it was fully necessary. I’ll explain why in a bit.

Chloé Zhao is tipped to direct. No word yet on the actual showrunner(s), but I think it’s safe to say that Joss Whedon will have nothing to do with this revival.

The first big relief? With SMG returning, this isn’t an actual reboot. I mean, she’s still playing Buffy, right? My biggest fear in the modern age was a full reboot—new cast, new Buffy. That would have been an unmitigated disaster and made me very salty. So the fact that this isn’t happening is very good news.

Doesn’t mean I’m not nervous, though. I still hold a ridiculous level of obsession with this show 27 years later. There’s barely a week that goes by without some Buffy media on in my house—whether it’s an episode playing in the background, a Buffy podcast, or the huge, glaring poster of Gellar staring at me from the wall. Hell, I’ve got the full Buffy and Angel VHS collections right next to the full DVD collections, all sitting beside my computer. This place is fully immersed in the Buffyverse, and I will have strong opinions.

The problem? There’s no way to know if this will be good or not. It could be. It could not be. I know, world-class insight here. I'm here all week.

I’ve always liked the idea of a historical Slayer show. Set it in the past with a Slayer we’ve never heard of. Hell, even one we have heard of—imagine a Buffyverse show with Nikki Wood as the Slayer in the ‘70s? Done right, that would be awesome. An anthology series would’ve been a really cool idea too. That's the great thing about the Buffyverse. It doesn't actually need any of the original cast to make a great show. The amount of potential untapped stories is almost endless.

I’m less hot on a timeline continuation, but it’s still drastically preferable to a hard reboot.

Who Could Return?

Obviously, SMG is confirmed. The first problem is Spike and Angel. I guess you could finagle some plot where Spike turns human to explain the ageing, but... eh. It’s not unprecedented—Angel turns human in the comics at some point, Darla gets resurrected, and the blood of a Mohra demon can do it. So, it’s not a total ass-pull. But I still don’t like it. Probably better to leave them out.

Giles? Seems highly likely. ASH is still active as an actor, and I doubt it would take much to bring him back.

Willow? No reason they wouldn’t ask Hannigan back, and no reason she wouldn’t return.

Dawn? Michelle Trachtenberg just posted on Insta with a 🎥 emoji. I’m calling that a yes.

Xander? With how Nicholas Brendon is these days, I’d be very surprised if they don’t kill him off off-screen or handwave his absence. (Yes, I know he’s dead in the comics—more on that later.) No chance he comes back.

Seems likely that this show will focus on a new cast and Slayer, with Buffy and the old crew in more of a supporting capacity. If this takes off and is a hit I wouldn't expect to see the old guard in every episode or anything.

Still, plenty of room for fun cameos. Even dead characters like Anya and Wesley aren’t completely off the table. This is the Buffyverse—being dead doesn’t always mean much.


Dealing with the comics

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Will they bother? I know that the Joss penned comics are considered canon, but that doesn't mean they are going to be adhered to here. My guess is that they will ignore the comics. It becomes very fantastical and weird, and trying to set this revival after season 12 would alienate a lot of casual nostalgia viewers that have fond memories of the show but don't even know the timeline continues in the comics. I just think it is too messy, and they will ignore all of it.

Emma and Michelle reactions are all I can find from the cast so far. Add more in the comments if you find them:





Same tbh Angel, same.gif

OK, so what are we feeling about this crew?
 
There are obvious reasons why Joss Whedon won't and shouldn't be involved, but my concern would be if could really capture the original magic without him (not the 2025 him, who would probably not be good at it, the old Whedon.) I would hope they try to get Jane Espenson invovled as she still writes and I feel always captured the humour of the show better than anyone than Joss (and sometimes better than him.) Not sure if Marti Noxon would want to come back after everyone spent the last 20 years saying she ruined the show. It's being showrun by the people who did Poker Face and that's a good show.

And yeah, ignore the comics. I read season 8 and it started off really good. For the first whoever many issues I thought it was a great continuation. Then we got to the final arc where Angel turned evil because a talking dog told him to and it ended with him and Buffy having sex in space to reboot the universe or some shit. It was so bad that Joss wrote a letter saying "err, this was a mistake, it won't happen again!" But I gave up on season 9 pretty quick.

Does Nicholas Brendon's twin brother (as seen in 'The Replacement'!) act at all? He could take over the role of Xander! I had no idea he died in the comics, reminds me of Chewie dying in the EU.

Didn't David Boreanaz get hit by some #MeToo type stuff? I'd probably rather they didn't bring back Angel or Spike because of how Angel ended anyway, we really shoudln't know if they lived or died. But the temptation to bring Spike backsomehow will be high and man I'd love to see more of Illyria...

Like you say there's no way to know if it'll be good or not or if it'll star Mckenna Grace as Buffy's secret daughter or not but here's hoping!
 
DB had some trouble in 2010 that just went away, he has been consistently employed up until October of last year.
 
I never read the comics, which makes me one of those 'casual viewers'. So the only issue for me is how to tweak the events of the finale (every girl in the world becomes a slayer?) so that there's still conflict in the new show... otherwise, sign me up.

My only other concern as a wuss and a petite flower is that the show doesn't go full gore/explicit violence, especially if it lands on a streamer. Gore has never been my cup of tea, and I liked the level of horror they kept in the old show... I'm sure I'm alone in this, but I'M HAPPY TO BE THE CHEESE.
 
The original show was cut to bits on the BBC so it was considered pretty violent already, didn't help they assumed it was a kids show and put it on at 6.
 
Didn't David Boreanaz get hit by some #MeToo type stuff?

He managed to weather it somehow, but he has been less than angelic in the past. Flashing his co-worker and forcing himself on her, allegedly. Settled out of court. It's actually quite surprising that he didn't get raked over the coals more, tbh.


When you compare that to something like the Louis CK case (which was also wrong of him of course but still not close to the level of allegations against DB) they definitely got different treatments. Hasn't slowed David down from getting consistent work in Hollywood. He's also still very good friends with SMG so nothing other than his age (which is probably enough) would stop him from being in the show in some capacity.

I never read the comics, which makes me one of those 'casual viewers'. So the only issue for me is how to tweak the events of the finale (every girl in the world becomes a slayer?) so that there's still conflict in the new show... otherwise, sign me up.

Yeah, this is an excellent point. The repercussions of the finale are going to be narratively difficult to work around. The mass Slayer activation was such a monumental event in the Buffyverse that you can’t just handwave it away or toss in a throwaway line reversing it.

It’s too significant—some form of reversal or depowering of the Slayers has to be a core plot point. The repercussions are so massive that the show almost has to be about how it all went wrong. In fact, the entire premise of the new series could (and maybe should) revolve around this.

There are plenty of interesting ways to approach it. If they don’t want to go the spell-reversal route, they could explore the chaos of thousands of superpowered girls around the world—most of them untrained and unchecked—leading to a disaster that needs to be fixed.

The Slayer activation must be undone, corrupted, or turned into a major catastrophe, and whatever happens, that has to be the main premise of the show. Right?
 
Other rebooted shows (especially Will & Grace) sinply reset their universe, and acted like their previous finale (or in some cases, a decent chunk of their final season) never happened,

it's always an option, but any show runs the risk of misreading their fanbase's tolerance level for it.
 
We don't really know how many slayers were activated, do we? Unless it was said in some comic. Like it was every Potential Slayer but they never gave a figure on how many of them there were. Maybe it's like one for every major city in the world or something. You could do something interesting with that: vampires would be really drive underground (LITERALLY!!!!) and maybe they'd have their own secret vampire island or something.
 
Happy birthday Anthony Stewart Head (71)!

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I never read the comics, which makes me one of those 'casual viewers'. So the only issue for me is how to tweak the events of the finale (every girl in the world becomes a slayer?) so that there's still conflict in the new show... otherwise, sign me up.
To be fair the show actually retconned some of the comics themselves. The way the ending is presented in Frey, which predated the last season, the hellmouth battle resulted in NO more slayers, Buffy gets her shiny ax (which comes directly from the Frey comics) goes to war with vampires and demons, gets swallowed up in the big battle and thats it, its over for centuries, demons, vampires, magic and Buffy are gone and the watchers more turn into fanatics, not get completely blown the fuck up. They then retconned it again for the Season ## comics.
 
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