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BATTLESTAR GALACTICA IS WHAT STAR TREK VOYAGER SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!!

Bickendan

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Ok, fuck, I'll start it off. A ship with limited supplies must make a perilous voyage to return/find a new home under constant threat of an enemy breathing down its neck.

Log line defines both series.

Voyager: A Federation ship and a Maquis ship join forces after getting accidentally knocked into the Delta Quadrant.
BSG: A Colonies Battlestar joins forces with the survivors of humanity after Cylons destroy the 12 Colonies.

Expectation: Maquis and Starfleet don't like each other. Good source of conflict. Never... really pans out. Maquis integrates with Voyager's crew, they get along well. Pretty much.
Expectation: Military and civilians get into spats that threatens humanity's survival. And how! Prisoner ships taking hostages, refinery ships refusing to produce fuel to allow the fleet to jump to FTL, mutinies, political intrigue, black market, and a bunch of religious crap that does actually move the plot.

Expectation: A common enemy driving the story along.
-Voyager: Well... the Borg don't show up for a while, and there's lots of Aliens of the Week.
-BSG: Cylons, and only Cylons.

Ok, it's 4 am... I'm going to bed!
 
"Man who was an executive producer on DS9 and Voyager is making a Battlestar Galactica reboot. I wonder if we can relate this new show to his previous works, somehow." - every single person alive, 2004.
 
Well, RDM only worked on a couple of episodes of Voyager after be left DS9. He got mad at the restraints of the writing on Voyager and quickly left to make his own version.
 
I liked both shows for REASONS. Voyager could have been better in some areas, but Star Trek has never, even with DS9, been gritty and realistic. Sure there are lots of episodes that delve into social and political issues, but almost always with an optimistic outlook. I think that's one of the many reasons we all loved Star Trek. It's good to have a show that makes us hope for a better future. Also oppositely BSG was good because it was somewhat gritty and realistic, besides having really good writing and acting. I'm glad we have both.

ALSO, it took me awhile to really appreciate Voyager, I didn't like it too much at first, but it grew on me. I watched almost all of it in reruns a few years ago and enjoyed it a lot.
 
Yeah I agree that Voyager should certainly have been more like Ron Moore said in that famous interview I can't be bothered finding or linking to, but maybe not to the BSG "there's a black market that sells children for sex" levels (but BSG probably shouldn't have gone that far either since it was a terrible episode.) I mean would Neelix have been running the black market pimping out Kes? Who'd want to see that? Wait...I would...

But I liked the things Moore suggested like having the ship look more "lived in" and I'm sure one of the few episodes he wrote had plants in the corridors or am I getting confused with the prehensile plant that molested Janeway I don't know.

Remember how we never saw the Equinox crew again after that episode where Janeway tortured Simon the Cylon lol?
 
BSG may well be the best sci-fi show ever. Yes, I'm placing it above anything Star Trek and even The Twilight Zone. It's so information dense that everytime I rewatch it I pick out at least one thing I didn't notice before.

Voyager? Pffft. Get that cheese to sickbay.
 
It had a good initial concept, but quickly ruined it, plus if you actually do the maths, in order for it to take 70 years to get back to earth, Voyager would have to have been doing three light years a day.

And I would like to think federation starships at warp 9 go a bit faster than that.
 
whisky said:
It had a good initial concept, but quickly ruined it, plus if you actually do the maths, in order for it to take 70 years to get back to earth, Voyager would have to have been doing three light years a day.

And I would like to think federation starships at warp 9 go a bit faster than that.
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It's nice that you'd like to think that.
 
3 light years a day is ~1100c. Warp 9 is ~1500c. Warp 6, the normal cruising speed for federation ships, is ~400c.
 
If you'd like to quibble with speed measures in Trek episodes, go look at when Broken Bow canonically established that Qo'Nos is less than 4 light years away from Earth.
 
So nearer than Alpha centuri, our nearest star?

I guess the episode "the chase" in TNG was set over the course of a year or so then.
 
Boys with their slide rules...

I like Cassie's word "appreciate" for Voyager -- I appreciate it and still watch some eps from time to time. But it frees me from having to commit so far as to say I "like" it.
 
Maybe they wrote that ep for another villain but the actor wasn't available so they drew names out of a hat and Seska lost won?
 
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