Lou The Beagle said:
Native Americans? Ever heard of those?
Americans? You mean black and white Americans? I know of no 'Native' Americans. I know there were
indigenous peoples inhabiting the American landmass.
You're the 'negroidal' person, correct? Is your entire knowledge of history and what is cruel and natural founded on Black History month?
I'm perturbed by the fact white Americans have to take shit for something that has been done since the dawn of time. You want to bitch and settle old scores? Take your protest sign to Cyprus or Taiwan. How about the Ainu of Japan? Are they on the list of oppressed peoples?
Big Dick McGee said:
As far as I am concerned, anyone who is here legally, and makes an attempt to blend into the American culture (i.e. LEARN ENGLISH), can claim America as his own. That's what the country was founded on.
Actually, it was founded on 2 important things: White Europeans assimilating into White American society (Learning English, as you stated) and co-existing with blacks.
A fundamental flaw in current 'White Nationalist' movements is that many elements seek to totally wipe the black man from the annals of American history. Although the intentions are not more or less noble than those of Black Nationalists, the Nation of Islam, or the Black Panthers, it will always be the main obstacle in White Nationalism gaining any sort of clout.
I have read more on this topic and have found that the actual conditions of blacks in the US (Since this is the topic of the thread) were much different than current perceptions of the time period acknowledge. The image of the perpetually cruel white master and the apathy of whites is not entirely accurate. I can elaborate more on this if asked to.
It's quackery and hypocritically leftist to say on the one hand that 'no one' deserves to be in the United States because the 'native' Americans are the only ones deserving of it whilst simultaneously proclaiming that it is a nation founded on immigration and that everyone under the sun deserves to move there, regardless of skin color, religion, language, etc (Which the new arrivals seem resistant to discard. Yes,
discard, because you have your country of origin, and you are not there if you emmigrate.)
However, if you're here illegally, and/or you don't make any attempt to learn the language, and fit in with our culture, then you cannot claim America as your own. I'm most definitely not suggesting that you abandon every aspect of your culture. I'm merely saying that you can't speak Spanish or Vietnamese or Swahili exclusively, you cannot dress or act like you're still in Mexico or the Sudan, and expect to be able to claim America as your own.
America is for Americans, be they from Texas, Pennsylvania, Chile, or Prague. As long as you make an effort to adapt to our culture, you're cool.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes
here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he
shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an
outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or
birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming
in very fact an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no
divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but
something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one
flag, the American flag ... and this excludes the red flag, which
symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it
excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have
room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And
we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is a loyalty to the
American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
I'm most definitely not suggesting that you abandon every aspect of your culture.
You mean that Irish should still be violent and drunk and Italians should be mobsters? Because other than that, Americans are American. Don't say a mutt (Excuse the term) is a poodle.
What are your 'roots?' Is all you have left of your European origins nothing but cuisine, white Americans?