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Caitriona badmouthing TK

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http://www.shatteredcorpse.com/forum/index.php?topic=369.0


I think I agree with Sardy that Free Speech comes with responsibilities and duties.
No, it does not. Free Speech is free. Sardy the Brave's motivation for posting might have been whatever he chose for it to be. He turned tail and ran because something finally came back and nearly bit him in the arse. Aside from the pig-fucker calling it 'his' failed experiment, he was wrong in the second count... truth is a double-edged sword, and only his admin powers saved him in covering up information he wanted censored. He smothered free speech with his last actions.

And now he's resurfeced at SC, the kinder, gentler Troll Kingdom.


Highly amusing.
 
Rapecat was not permitted to post at Shattered Corpse.

Rapecat is all for Rape Jihad on these morsels.

 
Rapecat said:
Rapecat was not permitted to post at Shattered Corpse.

Rapecat is all for Rape Jihad on these morsels.

Jihad? Please. The majority of their activity probably comes from me linking them in my posts. Since their only defense is curtailing registrations it's probably sufficient for me to laugh at it from afar.
 
Messenger said:
http://www.shatteredcorpse.com/forum/index.php?topic=369.0



No, it does not. Free Speech is free. Sardy the Brave's motivation for posting might have been whatever he chose for it to be. He turned tail and ran because something finally came back and nearly bit him in the arse. Aside from the pig-fucker calling it 'his' failed experiment, he was wrong in the second count... truth is a double-edged sword, and only his admin powers saved him in covering up information he wanted censored. He smothered free speech with his last actions.

And now he's resurfeced at SC, the kinder, gentler Troll Kingdom.


Highly amusing.
This I have to agree with. He claims that TK was always about creating, not destroying.

Pure bullshit, revisionist history.

I don't know whether Sardy had a direct hand in all the porn spam attacks and major disruptions that went on at TBBS, but the people that were involved certainly were involved with TK in it's earliest incarnations. And I'm willing to bet Sardy knew who these people were, and what they were up to.

However the BR threads were acquired, they most certainly were not given to TK to link to by Christian. To make it crystal clear: that's the board Sardy helped to found, linking to another board's staff only forum, without the owner's permission. How is that in any way creative, and not destructive? IMO, invading someone's property is destructive.

I have a lot of respect for you, Sardy. But I'm not buying the rosy, idyllic version of early TK you are trying to peddle. Your motives were never 100% pure.
 
Caitriona was trolled by my banning, and ultimately forced to flee :bigass: Ditto Hampster.
 
Messenger said:
Jihad? Please. The majority of their activity probably comes from me linking them in my posts. Since their only defense is curtailing registrations it's probably sufficient for me to laugh at it from afar.

This sounds lofty until one really thinks about it. :lol:

It seems their only defense is the one that pretty much forces you to laugh at it from afar, isn't it?
 
Messenger said:
No, it does not. Free Speech is free. Sardy the Brave's motivation for posting might have been whatever he chose for it to be. He turned tail and ran because something finally came back and nearly bit him in the arse. Aside from the pig-fucker calling it 'his' failed experiment, he was wrong in the second count... truth is a double-edged sword, and only his admin powers saved him in covering up information he wanted censored. He smothered free speech with his last actions.
Explain how there can be free speech with no personal responsibility for one's actions. Why must free speech include destructive action? This is not a thin grey area, it's a big chasm between censorship, and defending the individual rights and RL protection of board members. Is driving people off the board with personal information "free speech"? Is endless harassment "free speech"? At what point can/should a community step in and say, "No"?

Too many males get their idea of "freedom" from Lord of the Flies. Too many of them completely miss the actual points made by that book.

I don't defend the way Sardy left, I'm still scratching my head about it. What he tried to implement and accomplish here shouldn't be tied to how he left IMO. He had moved on from this place long before then, and had a different perspective about the shitpile of chaos it has steadily become.

It's utterly ridiculous to me to even try to argue that "free speech means free speech" and leave it at that. That is anarchy, pure and simple, and no community, society or even a stupid playground message board can survive that way. Not for a week, let alone 5 years.
 
Eggs Mayonnaise said:
Explain how there can be free speech with no personal responsibility for one's actions.
Free Speech is just that - what you speak freely is heard by others. It's not a difficult concept.

Why must free speech include destructive action?
I dunno, ask Aristotle.

This is not a thin grey area, it's a big chasm between censorship, and defending the individual rights and RL protection of board members.
Okay so you're getting uppity because it's Sardy in question, and not because you can act like a twat in QSF? Fine.

Free speech is whatever the fuck I am permitted to speak freely. If it infinges on someone's rights to anonymity then it's simply not my concern.

Is driving people off the board with personal information "free speech"? Is endless harassment "free speech"? At what point can/should a community step in and say, "No"?
oh boy, this is complicated.

No one drove Sardy off - he punked out like the little bitch he was, and removed all traces of anything he might have contributed here, unless he paid the current bills, in either which way case I couldn't give less of a fuck.

Endless harrassment is an action, something merely derivative of free speech. If I thought your free speech was infringing on my right to sell hotdogs, I'd sue you. It doesn't make the speech any less free, dumbass.

Community? You're no one to talk about community. You like to act like a big formal admin yet still appear to make exceptions, like when Henoch posted his senseless topic in QSF which your fag ass was probably more than giddy to jump upon and approve, seeing you're besterest butt-buddy back again.

But at what point the community should step in is up to the community. It has nothing to do with free speech. I don't think you've mastered this whole thing well enough to ride on it.

Too many males get their idea of "freedom" from Lord of the Flies. Too many of them completely miss the actual points made by that book.
damn males :gagh:

I don't defend the way Sardy left, I'm still scratching my head about it. What he tried to implement and accomplish here shouldn't be tied to how he left IMO.
No, it shouldn't be, but it's something he chose for himself.
He had moved on from this place long before then, and had a different perspective about the shitpile of chaos it has steadily become.
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It's utterly ridiculous to me to even try to argue that "free speech means free speech" and leave it at that. That is anarchy, pure and simple, and no community, society or even a stupid playground message board can survive that way. Not for a week, let alone 5 years.
Of course it can't. Are you trying to contend with TK's basic foundation? I assure you, it'll be turned against you and used to smack you silly. What this place could stand for is more order, more content. The experiment is over.
 
Messenger said:
Free speech is whatever the fuck I am permitted to speak freely. If it infinges on someone's rights to anonymity then it's simply not my concern.
That's never how TK worked no matter who was in charge, even Sardy. He was, as missmanners has also been, completely upfront about the fact that free speech ends when someone's personal info or real life is affected.

You keep calling me out for implementing the same basic policies that everyone who has ever adminned here has done. I'm just the one who's been in your face the most so you think that it's some personal thing between us. I'm not Javert, and BELIEVE ME, you're no Jean Valjean. So keep on making this about my arrogance and tyranny. Meh. I wasn't the first smartass in QSF and I won't be the last.

Also, I wasn't talking about Sardy when I was putting my questions about harrassment/destructive action to you, you connected those dots. And it's convenient that among my many quotes, you left out my passage about "when does free speech include destructive action?", which negates half your rant.
 
It's real simple, Cait knew that Messenger was Chadarnook, and controlled his behavior as a mod by threatening (several times) to reveal that info. I witnessed this.

She doesn't deserve any position of responsibility on a message board when it comes to knowing personal information about someone, because she simply can't be trusted.
 
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