Eggs Mayonnaise said:
Explain how there can be free speech with no personal responsibility for one's actions.
Free Speech is just that - what you speak freely is heard by others. It's not a difficult concept.
Why must free speech include destructive action?
I dunno, ask Aristotle.
This is not a thin grey area, it's a big chasm between censorship, and defending the individual rights and RL protection of board members.
Okay so you're getting uppity because it's Sardy in question, and not because you can act like a twat in QSF? Fine.
Free speech is whatever the fuck I am permitted to speak freely. If it infinges on someone's rights to anonymity then it's simply not my concern.
Is driving people off the board with personal information "free speech"? Is endless harassment "free speech"? At what point can/should a community step in and say, "No"?
oh boy, this is complicated.
No one drove Sardy off - he punked out like the little bitch he was, and removed all traces of anything he might have contributed here, unless he paid the current bills, in either which way case I couldn't give less of a fuck.
Endless harrassment is an action, something merely derivative of free speech. If I thought your free speech was infringing on my right to sell hotdogs, I'd sue you. It doesn't make the speech any less free, dumbass.
Community? You're no one to talk about community. You like to act like a big formal admin yet still appear to make exceptions, like when Henoch posted his senseless topic in QSF which your fag ass was probably more than giddy to jump upon and approve, seeing you're besterest butt-buddy back
again.
But at what point the community should step in is up to the community. It has nothing to do with free speech. I don't think you've mastered this whole thing well enough to ride on it.
Too many males get their idea of "freedom" from Lord of the Flies. Too many of them completely miss the actual points made by that book.
damn males :gagh:
I don't defend the way Sardy left, I'm still scratching my head about it. What he tried to implement and accomplish here shouldn't be tied to how he left IMO.
No, it shouldn't be, but it's something he chose for himself.
He had moved on from this place long before then, and had a different perspective about the shitpile of chaos it has steadily become.
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It's utterly ridiculous to me to even try to argue that "free speech means free speech" and leave it at that. That is anarchy, pure and simple, and no community, society or even a stupid playground message board can survive that way. Not for a week, let alone 5 years.
Of course it can't. Are you trying to contend with TK's basic foundation? I assure you, it'll be turned against you and used to smack you silly. What this place could stand for is more order, more content. The experiment is over.