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Democrat wants draft reinstated again.

bad dog

RIP DOG.
Charles Rangel is a genius , Many people are talking shit about him but I am NOT! His idea is getting people to stop and think.

Either way the vote ends up its right , It may stop the war or beef it up to kick ass and win.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061120/ap_on_go_co/military_draft

WASHINGTON - Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 under a bill the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee says he will introduce next year.

Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., said Sunday he sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.

Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, has said the all-volunteer military disproportionately puts the burden of war on minorities and lower-income families.

Rangel said he will propose a measure early next year. While he said he is serious about the proposal, there is little evident support among the public or lawmakers for it.

In 2003, Rangel proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. It was defeated 402-2 the following year. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42; it went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.

Democrats will control the House and Senate come January because of their victories in the Nov. 7 election.

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," said Rangel, who also proposed a draft in January 2003, before the U.S. invasion of Iraq. "I think to do so is hypocritical."

Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

"I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

Rangel, the next chairman of the House tax-writing committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 — now about 16 million — from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.
 
In 2003, Rangel proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. It was defeated 402-2 the following year. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42; it went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.
He is brilliant in getting people to talk about it, but 42? Fuck you, I ain't goin'...
 
The idea behind the draft was started by Rangel and his friends as a means of ensuring Republican defeat in the 2002 and 2004 elections. The idea was that if there was a draft, the public would turn out of office whomever was in charge, that being the Republicans.

Now with the Democrats in charge, and Bush unable to run again, it's going to be the last gasp from the kook fringe Democrats to get this passed. Not gonna happen.

Watch for the Democrat kook fringe to get even kookier, even nuttier, even wackier, even more extreme, as none of the conspiracy theories the Democrats energized them with are going to be seriously explored by the Democrats in congress. Their butts are thoroughly glued into those Senate and House chairs, and no kookster is going to pry them out again! Prepare for massive disillusionment from the kook conspiracy crowd, as they will be summarily IGNORED until the next election. (At which time Hillary, Chuck Schumer, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the rest will play them for the suckers they are once again.)

-Ogami
 
Proved right again, that was an easy call... Nostradamus, eat your heart out!

Top House Democrats to bar military draft plan
Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:46pm ET
By Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A reinstatement of the military draft, being pushed by a senior Democrat, will not be slated for consideration in the House of Representatives, the chamber's newly elected top leaders said on Monday.

"We did not include that" in legislative plans for early next year, said Democratic Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who will be House majority leader when the new Congress convenes in January under Democratic control for the first time in 12 years.
http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...0280714_RTRUKOC_0_US-DRAFT.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
 
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