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In This Thread We Shall Post Like Twats at IMDB

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If you've never checked out the Internet Movie Database (I'm sure everybody has) do so now. Read some of the message board posts at the foot of each actor/actresses entry.

The board is full of some of the crappiest trolls, half-witted morons, materialstic drama-queens, hat-filled bile-spewing tosspots and complete idiots of any board, anywhere.

So I'll start off:


Hate Filled Fag said:
Natalie Portman is soooooooooooooo untalented! She cannot outact a piece of wood! She is ugly and has scrawny arms! If anyone wants to know why George Lucas's second Star Wars trilogy sucked, it was because he cast that talentless bag of water! She had fat legs and a horrible face! I hate her and everything she has been in has been rubbish as a result! She was even rubbish in Leon when she was just a kid!

I also hear she smokes! Only ugly talentless lumps smoke, I hope she gets cancer or something just to teach her a lesson! She was born in Israel and never mentions Israelis. What a bitch! I hate her!

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Then you get a string of those, like this

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And then one that makes no sense, like this

Trying to Be Cool_69 said:
Yeah, I see what you mean. I saw her in Garden State and it was like Padmé all over again. Do you think we should picket Hollywood to see her do that again? I would shudder to think what would happen if she was in France at the time!
 
She is ugly and has scrawny arms!

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She had fat legs and a horrible face!

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She was even rubbish in Leon when she was just a kid!


Blasphemy.


Yeah, I see what you mean.

I see that you are proof the education system isn't working.


I saw her in Garden State and it was like Padmé all over again.


Or... If you had eyes and ears and watched both you would see that her character in Garden State had zero similarites with Padme except the fact that she played them both.



Great minds think alike, I made a similar thread to this some time back. IMDB is full of morons (the public) it is a veritble well of idocy to be laughed and tutted at.

http://www.trollkingdom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35878&highlight=imdb
 
Allison Mack is so buff but she's a bad acress and should be sacrificed to Satan I mean Bill Gates lol omg you know it man Kevin SMith should team up with Tarantino and make a Batman movie but Batman's only in it for ten minutes and the rest is Commisoner Gordon solvinig crimes and saying fuck lol.
 
I give Allison Mack a lot of flak because its amusing, but she is actually a decent enough actress.
 
I do like Allison Mack, I was just posting like a twat from IMDB. I MEAN, BANANA SEX BUDGIE THE HELICOPTER LOL.
 
Please note, I am neither of the participants in this debate, even tho one of them is named "Loki"...

HAS THE WORLD GONE MAD??? Seriously! Am I the only person who thinks Jesse Bradford is a total douche bag!?!
I mean, he's a mouth breather (à la Bruce Willis). And he has one reaction face -- the half-smile/half-smirk.
It's bad enough that we have a moron in the White House, but do we really have to stand for this kind of mediocrity coming out of Hollywood as well?
Really, people!
Whenever I rent a movie that Jesse Bradford is in, I have to fast forward past his parts.

Wow! What has Jesse Bradford ever done to you? Are you jealous? Sexually aroused? Let’s see… Jesse’s been acting for 25 years, 23 films. He’s been hired by renowned filmmakers like Steven Soderberg, Merchant/Ivory (twice), Baz Luhrmann, Alan Pakula, Gus Van Sant, etc. who are all known to use the best actors. He has been chosen to work with great actors like Robert DeNiro, Harrison Ford, Glenn Close (twice), James Woods, Meryl Streep, Adrian Brody (twice), etc. He’s been a cast member on the Emmy winning West Wing, a show known for exceptional acting.
Mouth Breather?? I assume you are referring to his portrayal of Ben in Swimfan. I thought it was subtle and brilliant because he plays a swimmer who must breathe through his mouth while swimming hours each day! Then he must gulp for air as his world tumbles down around him, drowning him.
And what have you accomplished in your life? For someone who can’t spell Douche Bag, you certainly are one.

It's too bad that Jesse's acting talent hasn't benefited from all that experience with those excellent actors and those incredible directors. Well, not that we've seen on the screen anyway.
"Clockstoppers" sucked. "Swimfan" sucked. I can't help but think that all of Jesse Bradford's movies would have improved dramatically had the casting directors chosen someone else to play Jesse's roles. Well, maybe not "Clockstoppers."
And the guy's been acting since he was in diapers. You'd think his Columbia education would have helped him out a little bit, but it really shouldn't take an Ivy League schooling to realize when talent is lacking.
Good comments, by the way!

Well, I think Jesse Bradford is awesome, talented, and GORGEOUS!!! I'm a HUGE Jesse Bradford fan!

I'm sorry that it's taken me so long to get back to you, Liquid Trust. I applaud your passion, but clearly your hormones have clouded your judgement. And I suppose there's nothing inherently wrong with that.
Consider this: I don't go to the theater to check out stars; instead, I appreciate the art of film for its own sake, and film is a medium that is best expressed on the big screen. Apart from the skyrocketing ticket prices at the movie theater, there is no reason for me to see a film at home that I could just as easily appreciate at the theater where it's meant to be seen. That having been said, ticket prices are much too high, and one of the reasons is the exorbitant salaries movie studios have to pay the big Hollywood stars. And one of those actors with an exorbitant salary is Jesse Bradford.
Admittedly, I would never pay $9 to see a movie with Jesse Bradford in it, but a big Hollywood distribution company that would be releasing a film that I do want to see might have Jesse Bradford on its payroll. So, that is one of the ways that Jesse Bradford indirectly affects me.
More to the point, I knew lots of actors and actresses when I went to school who are more talented and better looking than Jesse Bradford. I don't know why they didn't appear in Jesse Bradford's roles instead of Jesse Bradford. But, any one of my actor friends from college would be more deserving of the multi-million dollar salaries than Jesse Bradford.
So, while you may think Jesse Bradford is "gorgeous", you must understand that he doesn't deserve your attention as much as other better looking, more talented actors out there.
By the way, I love the name you chose for yourself. What does LiquidTrust refer to? I just think it's really cool. That's it.

So you don't like Jesse Bradford. We know. Why do you have to write such llllllloooonnnnnnnggggggg replies just restating your dislike. Shorten it to a couple of lines.

I think Jesse Bradford is very good looking. I liked Bring It On. I thought Kirsten Dunst was very good in the movie. And I think you should get a life instead of hating so much.

As to the movie prices, They are expensive so watch them on DVD or video. Problem solved. Stop being such a cheap ass and shut up...

Okay, I fully admit that Swimfan and Clockstoppers were a little below average on the scale, but it is hardly due t the fact that they stared Jesse Bradford. Why should he bear the blame when it is really the writing? Whatch him in a good movie with a fully devloped plot, like King of the Hill or even Far From Home. He HAS talent. But no matter how talented someone is, terrible writing can still overshadow them.

I care about the size of your penis as much as you care about the size of my breasts.

Sorry, it's taken me so long to get back to you, geny82. I think it's a cop-out to that say one can't judge an actor's performance because of a poor quality script. Part and parcel of being a good actor is the ability to pick good scripts, but even a bad actor can tell a good from a bad script. The true test of a good actor is to be able to give a stellar performance with a bad script, a bad cast, and a bad director. Check out Eric Roberts some time; personally, I think he's annoying, and he always picks awful roles, but the guy can definitely act. And for the record, I don't think "swimfan" was a bad script; I think that Jesse Bradford alone ruined that film.
I'll think about watching these movies you've recommended, but let's just say hypothetically that Jesse Bradford actually gave really good performances in those films; that's not necessarily a credit to Jesse Bradford. The best directors can pull a fantastic performance out of a terrible actor. I don't know anything about those movies that you mentioned, so I'll do some research on them. I'll get back to you when I can establish a more conclusive analysis, but don't hold your breath, geny82. It will probably take a long long time before I get around to watching anything that features Jesse Bradford.
Know this, I recently rented "Eulogy," and Jesse Bradford was in it. His performance was trite (to say the least), not that his role really called for anything spectacular. But, all of his scenes involved Zooey Deschanel, whom I adore, and her scenes were ruined for me because of him. I had to fast forward past all of those scenes; he was that awful. Maybe I sound like a hypocrite for admitting that I have an affinity for Zooey Deschanel, but I don't think anyone would honestly argue with me when I laud her acting talent.
Perhaps, my argument is flawed. If you can prove that I'm wrong, I'll be the first person to admit my error, and I'll retract all my statements. I'll even write a letter of apology to Jesse Bradford for underselling him, but I don't think you'll be able to prove me wrong. Jesse Bradford is a terrible actor who relies on his questionable looks to get him film roles, but I'll give him one credit in his favor; he can do physical comedy, and that is no small concession for me to make. What it says to me is that while Jesse Bradford lacks any appreciable dramatic talent today, some day if he works hard enough, Jesse Bradford could become a decent comic personality; and he could build a career on that. I'm sorry, ladies, that's as much as I can give.

Hey! We're talking about the guy that made it worth watching 'Bring it on' over and over and over and over again. The movie sucked my ass off but he was there, so it was totally worth it...that has got to mean something! ;)

I agree "Bring It On" was a horrible movie.
Kirsten Dunst was absolutely wooden in the lead role, and Gabrielle Union has so much more potential than exhibited in this movie. Did you see her in "Deliver Us From Eva"? Wow!
But, it's really sad that Jesse Bradford probably gave the best performance in his (hopefully short) career in "Bring It On."
The only person who was both well suited for her role in the movie and gave a good performance was Eliza Dushku. Man, she is amazing! And she's not bad looking either.

“Hopefully short�?? Why this obsession to dis Jesse Bradford? You’re obviously alone in your hatred. You say you don’t like Jesse’s acting, but you’re like the art gallery buffoon admitting, “I may not know art, but I know what I like.†Fact is, you don’t know what you’re talking about, so stop pretending to be a film buff. Back up your arguments, see his movies, get supporting evidence from people qualified to give opinions about acting. You want proof of his talent? I checked up on geny82’s two favorites:
About “King of the Hillâ€, Peter Travers (Rolling Stone) writes, “Jesse Bradford does himself proud.â€
Roger Ebert says, “Soderberg has made his best film. Some of the credit goes to Bradford… who has that rare ability to convince us he is thinking when he seems to be doing nothing.â€
Desson Howe (Washington Post) writes, “Bradford, … gives his role a touching, thoroughly believable center… this movie is memorably his.â€
About “Far from Homeâ€, Variety (THE showbiz publication) comments, “… it is Bradford who carries the picture. As in "King of the Hill," he effortlessly demonstrates an instinct, talent and charisma no other actor of his age can approximate.â€
Furthermore, Bradford has two best actor nominations from the Young Artists Awards and one from the Chicago Film Critics.
And you should realize that most actors, like everyone else, need to work and sometimes have no choice but to choose among less than stellar projects. True, a good director can make an actor better, but a good actor can also be made to look worse by bad direction, a compromised budget, studio politics, poor editing, writing, lighting, sound, cinematography, sets, other actors, etc. and most of Jesse’s films have been low budget independents which inherently have some of those problems. It also means he is not making an exorbitant salary that affects your ticket price. Typical indie salaries are $30,000 or less! Check the budgets of the films he’s made.
Why don’t you reserve further judgment until you see “Heights†and “Happy Endingsâ€, both out this summer, then sharpen your pencil for that apology note.

I accept your challenge, Z. I'm an open-minded guy and the first to admit when I'm wrong. And if I'm wrong, I'll post a message saying I was a know-it-all jerk who spoke prematurely on Jesse Bradford's talent, and I'll even write a letter of apology to Jesse Bradford. But, and this is a big BUT, if I still am unable to give Jesse Bradford the props you think he deserves, you're going to have to give me something really big in return. Like a $30 AMC Theater gift certificate. Do you accept my terms?

Maybe I didn't explain myself well. What I mean is, they were bad scripts, but Jesse Bradford still managed to make them good. And, come on, yes, a more established actor has the choice to pick and choose their roles, but not everyone does.

I think you explained yourself very well, geny82. You're saying the scripts themselves were to blame for the cinematic failures of "swimfan" and "Clockstoppers." I still think that's a copout. A film's screenwriter is always the first person blamed when the film bombs, and the last person thanked when the film is a success. But, there are so many filters in between a script's final draft and what appears on the screen. Directors and actors are always changing either the dialogue or action on set, but it's always the screenplay that draws them to the project in the first place.
OK, I accept that Jesse Bradford probably knew that "Clockstoppers" wasn't Academy Award material. He probably just wanted to do a fun action movie for his young teen fans. I applaud that kind of loyalty; it's commendable. I'll bet Jesse Bradford is a nice guy, who bakes banana bread for his mother every Sunday. Please, don't think that I'm questioning Jesse Bradford's moral fiber, but that doesn't make him a great actor.
But, maybe I should ask whether Jesse is a "good guy". Jesse Bradford is obviously a very smart man; Columbia doesn't readily welcome too many idiots into its academic community. That having been said, if the screenplays were truly to blame for the poor quality of "Clockstoppers" and "swimfan", then Jesse must have known that he would be performing in awful films when he signed on, right? Jesse Bradford can read, right? So, Jesse Bradford should have known before he even stepped onto the first day of production that the screenplays were crap, if as you say it was a fault in the writing.
Why then would a smart guy agree to make a bad film? Hmmm. There's only one motivating factor I can think of: greed. Claiming that a person is motivated first and foremost by the love of money is a much worse accusation than merely saying accusing that person of being ill-suited for his job. I don't want to make that kind of a character assumption about anyone else, especially not about someone who could pay his personal bodyguards to track me down and do me physical harm.
No, I'd rather believe that Jesse Bradford is a good guy, but a bad actor. And ZZZZ-4 has all but confirmed my suspicion, because Jesse obviously isn't in it for the money; Jesse does serious, independent dramatic acting now. I'm sure, Jesse Bradford will prove to be the next Peter Gallagher.

Loki, Loki, what can we do with you? Why the obsession? You think you know all the answers. Why would an actor be in a film based on a bad script? Geny82 and I give you reasons, and you don’t even consider them. It must be greed you say. Didn’t you see "Project Greenlight"? Let me spell it out for you on a hypothetical film shoot. An actor agrees to do a script that’s an amazing read destined to be a great film. A week into the film the studio cuts a crucial scene because they decide it’s too expensive. The next week the proper permit isn’t obtained for a location shoot, and that scene can’t be shot. Then the steady cam is dropped. It’s a week’s delay and $100,000 to fix it. Next the director falls seriously ill. Days are lost as another director is hired who it turns out has a different vision for the film. It rains for a week. Days over the planned shooting schedule, an actor with a prior commitment must drop out of the film. They shoot around him and drop his scenes. Over schedule and over budget, scenes and dialog are skipped and rearranged, and the scenes shot get only one take. Finally, production is stopped. It’s an indie film… no more money, no more time. It goes to post. The rights to a crucial song can’t be bought. A CGI effect is too expensive so a cheaper (looking) version is contracted. Scenes don’t cut together because the proper transitions weren’t shot, dialog must be dubbed, continuity is compromised, and the plot has more holes than Swiss cheese. The end result is a lousy movie that is released anyway by the studio in an effort to recoup their investment. Film Know-It-Alls immediately ask, “Why would that actor perform in such a rotten movie? Didn’t he read the script?â€
The question here should not be, “Is Jesse Bradford a great actor?†As far as I know, he has never claimed that title. "Has he paid his dues?" Obviously! "Are there worse actors with thinner resumes making more money than he?" Definitely! The question should be, “Why have you singled him out to deride and ridicule?†You haven’t answered that one yet.

Regarding your proposed wager, I would immediately accept except for two concerns. (1) The judging. Who judges if Jesse has talent? That’s a subjective evaluation, and if you’re the judge, that’s an easy way for you to score a $30 prize. Both films are ensemble pieces, so the cast is often evaluated as a whole, and the two films could get conflicting or opposite reviews. Also the persona, popularity, or likeability of the characters Jesse plays is not what we’re judging. But if we average the opinions of the film critics on the acting, then I agree. (2) The prize. Jesse gets anpology; you get a $30 gift certificate; what do I get from you? And the final stipulation was that you would reserve further judgment until after you saw “Heights†and “Happy Endingsâ€. You’ve already broken that one.
 
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