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Men: Are you responsible for your sperm?

Love Child

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Just out of curiuosity. According to radio Talk Show Host Tom Leykis the woman is solely responsible for not getting pregnant. Men are not responsible for the sperm they donate. While I tend to agree with him, because ultimately we are responsible for our own bodies. As woman, we are the ones who will be pregnant if we are not careful. I still can't help to feel a little resentful at a guy who can just have sex with whomever he pleases, not worrying about the fact that his sperm helped create an illegitimate child, should she choose to keep the baby.
So my question to you is: Are you responsible for the sperm you willingly donate to the woman, or are you reccused of any and all responsiblity of this because she is the one that ultimately has to deal with having a baby?
 
A man has an equal responsibility to prevent conception. Beyond that, I think a man should have equally as much right as a woman to abort that responsibility -- though he can't force a medical abortion, he should be able to legally sever all ties (familial, financial and otherwise) to the child.
 
In a strictly legal sense, men are screwed because they have no say in the decision to have the baby, but are responsible for supporting it should the woman decide to have it.

If women have the gift of childbirth (something men do not get to experience), and have the right to terminate pregnancies, than they should also bear the responsibility of the consequences of their choice. The law is neither romantic nor very pretty, but it should be fair and equitable.
 
That is true too. Unfortunately some woman use that, and may even abort a without the mans consent. He has no choice.
 
Morally, IMHO people should stop fucking like a handshake, and treat sex with a little more respect. Gays as well as straights.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Like most gifts of being alive, it's sad when it is taken for granted.

(Of course I don't get laid often so I can use this line to make it look like it's by choice...oh was that out loud?)
 
I'm fully responsible for my sperm.

There's a story to be heard, but it will never be told on TK.
 
Um... you fucked a houseplant and it became all mutated and sentient and angry and raised up an army of cactusususususes that took over your local McDonald's?
 
The Question said:
Um... you fucked a houseplant and it became all mutated and sentient and angry and raised up an army of cactusususususes that took over your local McDonald's?

Something like that.
 
Men do have choices where unwanted pregnancies are concerned. They can abstain, use condomns, have a vasectomy, and have sex only with women they are certain they want to have children with or can trust are using an adequate birth control method.
 
eloisel said:
Men do have choices where unwanted pregnancies are concerned. They can abstain, use condomns, have a vasectomy, and have sex only with women they are certain they want to have children with or can trust are using an adequate birth control method.
Exactly!
 
eloisel said:
Women do have choices where unwanted pregnancies are concerned. They can abstain, use diaphragms, have a tubal ligation, and have sex only with men they are certain they want to have children with or can trust are using an adequate birth control method.

Somehow I doubt we'd see the above response.
 
The Question said:
Somehow I doubt we'd see the above response.
No. I disagree. That statement is true as well TQ. Earlier I said something about men not having a choice, so I am sure that is why eloisel posted that.
We all have choices.
 
Love Child said:
No. I disagree. That statement is true as well TQ. Earlier I said something about men not having a choice, so I am sure that is why eloisel posted that.
We all have choices.

I guess I'm just a little offended that one gender is more equal than the other, and that so many people think that's defensible. Equality should mean equality -- women can choose not to get pregnant, so too men can choose not to get a woman pregnant. Women can also choose not to be parents after they become pregnant, but that's where a man's choice ends. That's not equal, but those who so often claim to believe in equality in all other aspects between the genders will defend this particular inequality as if it's not only okay, but as if actual equality in this area would be wrong.
 
You mean, defend the fact that women are biologically designed to carry developing offspring? This is at the heart of all gender role identifications, and will be the case for the foreseeable future. Believe me, many females would love to cure your offense, and make it so either 1) Both men and women have the opportunity for / responsibility of pregnancy. 2) Only men can get pregnant. If you see a way around this, where females can maintain control over their bodies and both reproductive donors can maintain control over developing offspring, PLEASE enlighten humanity!

Test tube babies?
 
The Question said:
I guess I'm just a little offended that one gender is more equal than the other, and that so many people think that's defensible. Equality should mean equality -- women can choose not to get pregnant, so too men can choose not to get a woman pregnant. Women can also choose not to be parents after they become pregnant, but that's where a man's choice ends. That's not equal, but those who so often claim to believe in equality in all other aspects between the genders will defend this particular inequality as if it's not only okay, but as if actual equality in this area would be wrong.

Please keep in mind that it is not entirely the female's fault that that is where the man's choice ends. It's a nature thing.
 
Gonad said:
If you see a way around this, where females can maintain control over their bodies and both reproductive donors can maintain control over developing offspring, PLEASE enlighten humanity!

Okay, easily done: A developing fetus is not its mother's body. It's not a toe, a finger, an organ, a limb.

It's not your body. It's in your body.

But again, it comes down to this: If the expectant mother can terminate her relationship to her unborn child, a father-to-be should have just as much right to terminate his relationship to his unborn child.
 
Then is it my fault if the offending parasite dies upon removal?

That said, I think that once the sperm has been deposited it is no longer the male's responsibility, unless he chooses to see it as such.
 
Gonad said:
Then is it my fault if the offending parasite dies upon removal?

Well, that's a more or less monstrous thing to say.

Gonad said:
That said, I think that once the sperm has been deposited it is no longer the male's responsibility, unless he chooses to see it as such.

Now if only the law were so equitable.
 
Cold, not monstrous. If that burden could be shared with the male I'm sure it would be, often.
 
I've no doubt. Minor tip:

Males and females are found in the insect kingdom. We humans are principally comprised of men and women. ;)
 
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