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New MS Beta Toys! (Windows Media Player 11 For XP and Live Mail Desktop)

The Question

Eternal
WEE! I like WMP 11 so far, with the exception of them replacing MSN Radio with this URGE gloop. Live Mail Desktop is long overdue, IMHO. It lets you check your Live Mail (previously Hotmail) account, as well as any other accounts you choose to add (RSS Feeds, Newsgroups, POP accounts) and keeps them all nicely seperated so you don't inadvertently answer an email from one account from a different address.
 
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I'm satisfied with my current software at the moment. I'm not some fucking soccer mom who knows shit about computers that I need to grab the latest crap off the shelves.
 
But at the other end of the spectrum you have us early adopter geeks, who grab the latest crap off the shelves -- not because we don't know any better -- but because we do know better and are masochistic enough not to care. :D
 
My shit is hanging on by a thread. Every day, I'm like scotty with this piece of crap. I don't need stuff rocking the boat!
 
Well, Live Mail Desktop has a long damn way to go before it's ready for primetime.

So far:

-No "Mark All As Read" feature for Newsgroups or RSS feeds.
-Similarly, no "Empty Junk Mail" feature.
-Doesn't display POP Inbox contents after the first time they're shown.

WMP 11 missing features:
-MSN Radio button (already mentioned, but when you're paying for the shit, it's annoying as hell not to have a button for it easily accessible.
-"Open" button. Hey, sometimes you want a quickie, not a whole damn playlist.
 
The Question said:
But at the other end of the spectrum you have us early adopter geeks, who grab the latest crap off the shelves -- not because we don't know any better -- but because we do know better and are masochistic enough not to care. :D
"geek adapters"

No comma necessary after "geeks".

No hyphenated sentence break necessary after "shelves" nor after "better".

Comma is needed after "better" and before "but".

"masochistic enough to not care".

You're welcome, TQ.
 
Grammour Boy said:
"geek adapters"

Wrong. "early adopter" is its own phrase, referring to persons or organizations whom, as a matter of habit, apply still-formative technologies as educational exercises and for the purposes of advance proprietary development. In the context used, "early adopter" clarifies "geeks."

No comma necessary after "geeks".

Wrong again, as the remainder of the sentence which follows clarifies the subject which falls before the preposition. Also, punctuation which serves to introduce a preposition or end a sentence properly belongs within quotation marks, not outside them.

No hyphenated sentence break necessary after "shelves" nor after "better".

That's not subject to a formalized grammatical guideline; it is a matter of individual preference.

Comma is needed after "better" and before "but".

Wrong. You would be correct in the event that what followed the preposition "and" constituted a complete thought independent of the rest of the sentence. Without a repetition of the subject, "we," between "and" and "are," it does not.

"masochistic enough to not care".

Another matter of personal preference.

You're welcome, TQ.

If that's the quality I'm welcome to, feel free to be stingy.
 
Grammour Boy said:
Well, Live Mail Desktop has a damn long way to go before it's ready for primetime.

Actually, it's "Well, Live Mail Desktop has a damned long way to go before it's ready for Prime Time." There's a difference between not using formal grammatical structure and not knowing it. You'd better find some new tricks for your pony, son.
 
Well, like I said, the desktop version still needs a lot of work yet, but the web-based one is just fine. Live Mail won't actually be replacing Hotmail, though, not for quite awhile. Even the web-based version of it is still in Beta as part of the Office Live service. (Office Live isn't the same thing as Office Online, which is what I showed you last month. Office Live is a different creature entirely.)
 
I'm liking WMP11, and WLM. LiveMail is okayish, don't like the live.com homepage, IE7 is ok, I guess. I won't be switching to it as my primary browser yet, as the java is fucked. Also, Firefox rocks
 
The Live Platform seems to be MS's answer to all the Google software that's been out for awhile now. The difference being that Live stuff seems to be aiming to include a wider variety of web-based apps as well as desktop access.

WMP 11 does in fact seem to be a bit lighter on its feet than WMP 10, although keep in mind it's still in beta, so no guarantees they won't find a way to clunk it up by the time it's a full finished release.
 
Harkley said:
IE7 is ok, I guess. I won't be switching to it as my primary browser yet, as the java is fucked. Also, Firefox rocks

I used to have problems with Java in the earlier IE 7 beta, but since installing beta 2 it's been fine for me -- which version are you on? And I still use PortableFirefox when I pop into the cybercafe, as it's got all my favorites and such, but it seems like each new build of FF introduces new bloat and new bugs, so I've switched to IE 7 as my primary browser.
 
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