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Pathetic Patriotic American Cinema

Tyrant

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I use a strong term like 'pathetic' because the deluge of "remember who you are" films is unendurable. When did such films mysteriously become trendy? Does it have anything to do with the fact that Hollywood really can't produce anything of intelligence anymore?

Spiderman is fiction. The Transformers are fiction. There is no reason to partake in escapism, so snap out of it. No hero is going to come down from the sky and fix your problems for you.
 
Tyrant said:
I use a strong term like 'pathetic' because the deluge of "remember who you are" films is unendurable. When did such films mysteriously become trendy? Does it have anything to do with the fact that Hollywood really can't produce anything of intelligence anymore?

Spiderman is fiction. The Transformers are fiction. There is no reason to partake in escapism, so snap out of it. No hero is going to come down from the sky and fix your problems for you.
Spoken like a true giant, evil transforming robot.
 
Tyrant said:
Pathetic Patriotic American Cinema
I use a strong term like 'pathetic' because the deluge of "remember who you are" films is unendurable. When did such films mysteriously become trendy? Does it have anything to do with the fact that Hollywood really can't produce anything of intelligence anymore?

I'm finding the thesis a little murky. The sentiment I applaud, but I'm not sure exactly who you're attacking. Patriotic? What's a "remember who you are" film? Do you mean "Remember you're an American?"

Spiderman is fiction. The Transformers are fiction. There is no reason to partake in escapism, so snap out of it. No hero is going to come down from the sky and fix your problems for you.

And yet I still like to watch machines blow up.

Saw Ratatouille last weekend. You can feel uncomfortable about hopping on the Pixar bandwagon; you can take the rat chef and his feckless proxy or leave 'em; you can question why there are so many firearms in France, et cetera et cetera --BUT through the mouth of one of the film's characters comes some of the most trenchant lines about art, quality and the pursuit of excellence that I've ever heard in my life.
 
Shitty Dual said:
I'm finding the thesis a little murky. The sentiment I applaud, but I'm not sure exactly who you're attacking. Patriotic? What's a "remember who you are" film? Do you mean "Remember you're an American?"

I understand what he's saying, I just think that the whole copy/pasting thing makes him post his thoughts in a rather rushed sense.
 
Shitty Dual said:
I'm finding the thesis a little murky. The sentiment I applaud, but I'm not sure exactly who you're attacking. Patriotic? What's a "remember who you are" film? Do you mean "Remember you're an American?"
Yes, I do. They are attempting to appeal to patriotism (The healthy, productive type) through fictional characters, and I find it distasteful and embarrassing as an American citizen. I love the fiction, but being a patriotic American is serious business and shouldn't be muddled with Spiderman.
 
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Saw Ratatouille last weekend. You can feel uncomfortable about hopping on the Pixar bandwagon; you can take the rat chef and his feckless proxy or leave 'em; you can question why there are so many firearms in France, et cetera et cetera --BUT through the mouth of one of the film's characters comes some of the most trenchant lines about art, quality and the pursuit of excellence that I've ever heard in my life.

Anton Ego: In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations, the new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new, an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto: Anyone can cook. But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere. It is difficult to imagine more humble origins than those of the genius now cooking at Gusteau's, who is, in this critic's opinion, nothing less than the finest chef in France. I will be returning to Gusteau's soon, hungry for more.
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Interesting "bump" here.

You touch upon the secret of Pixar's success: They tell good stories, they write them well, and they express them in cinema in a way that "mainstream" Hollywood has lost.

Watch "Casablanca".

Then watch the first 10 minutes of "Up" (and if you are or were married, I dare you not to cry).

Pixar is not perfect. But they are in an entirely different class than the rest of the movie industry.
 
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