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R.I.P. Dana Reeve

Laker_Girl

Laker_Girl

Mrs. Big Dick McGee
Superman's widow has died of lung cancer.

I didn't much care for her...Or him for that matter but I couldn't feel worse for their 15 year old son Will, that boy lost both of his parents in less than two years. God bless that young man.
 
Yeah that sucks, she seemed like a nice lady. I mean, she stuck with her hubby even though he did something stupid (equestrian riding) that irrevocably changed both of their lives. A helluva woman.
 
You beat me too it. I was just posting this.


This is pretty tragic. There son was 13 by the way.

Why didn't you like them LG? They were a brave family and fought a good cause and stayed strong in the face of adversity that so many have to deal with. They used their celebrity to highlight what normal folk with similar problems have to overcome. For that they are to be applauded.


RIP DANA REEVE.
 
Why the Reeve hate? What traitorous thing did either of them do? Sheesh...

And this is the first time I've ever seen anyone adopt a "serves him right" tone to Reeve's accident. Riding a horse is asking for it?

Fun's fun on this board, but this is just ghoulish IMHO.

RIP to both of them, they're together again without all the illness and strife.
 
I have about as much sympathy for Christopher Reeve as I do for race car drivers who have a terrible wreck and become paralyzed. I don't mean to say that you shouldn't have hobbies but then don't expect me to feel bad when you injure yourself doing it. My mom got hit in the head with a golf ball once, I didn't feel sorry for her either.

So that coupled with me not agreeing with stem cell research from embryos I just don't care for them or their plight. And neither were very good actors.

Also, I believe that Will was 13 when Christopher died and is now 15. At least that's what Katie Couric from The Today Show said and God knows she and Dana Reeve were practically lesbian lovers, I mean Katie Couric was wearing black today for pete's sake.

But you know, I don't want to be harsh, God bless them and their families.
 
You're right, L_G, when you said sometimes I just don't get you. You could not be the person IRL that you present onscreen, because that person is kinda scary...
 
^^I don't feel sympathy per se when someone gets injured performing a hobby. If you're a construction worker, and you get injured on the job, yeah. If you're crossing the street on the way to school, and a driver comes and plows into you, you have my sympathy.

I have sympathy for Dana Reeve because she got cancer. I wouldn't be sympathetic towards her if, say, she smoked for twenty years.

What Christopher Reeve did was the same as Patrick Dempsey or Jason Priestly when they do amateur race-car-driving. You know there are risks involved, don't be all woe-is-me. There are kids born every day with fucked-up genetic diseases that deserve your sympathy more than Christopher friggin' Reeve.

Yeah, he did great work in furthering research into paralysis...but you've gotta admit, that's pretty self-serving. He didn't fund research before it affected him, just like Michael J. Fox didn't fund Parkinson's research until he was diagnosed with it.
 
Oh, I'm not scary. I bawled my eyes out when my dad's best friend died but couldn't muster up an ounce of emotion when my dad's sister died. When someone isn't a positive part of my life I find it hard to get emotional about it.

I don't know the Reeves and while I recognize all the things they did, they didn't do it exclusively because it needed to be done, they did it to help Christopher Reeve and la-dee-da, it may have helped others too. I mean come on, it wasn't like, "In an ironic twist, spinal cord injury activist Christopher Reeve became paralyzed after falling off his horse in an equestrian event Saturday." The Reeves only became activists when it affected them. What's so great about that?
 
I didn't know sympathy was a limited resource that should only be reserved for those who meet minimum eligibility requirements. There's conservative, and there's just plain cold.

But, here's where it turns into a semantics argument and I get blasted as a bleeding heart liberal, so I'm moving on from this thread...we've been here before.
 
I'm not blasting you and I'll flat out tell you, yes my sympathy has requirments.

You don't know me IRL so you have no idea and I would never hold that against you because I like you here and I imagine liking you IRL too. If we ever do meet, you'll understand. What can I say? Like all women, I'm very complex...Be glad you're gay. ;)
 
The Reeves only became activists when it affected them. What's so great about that?
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Actually no.


The Reeves were VERY invloved in MANY charites and events BEFORE his accident. And not just the usual stuff actors get involved with but a lot more besides.

I could go and find all the stuff they were invloved with if you like, its extensive.

I feel sorry for what happened to the Reeves as fellow human beings who were good people, not because of their fame or celebrity.


He fell of a horse and paralyzed himself, just because he was doing something he enjoyed and had some risk atached to it doesn't negate sympathy to be held for him and his family. And they didn't play it up, Reeve never felt sorry for himself, he fought it head on in the face of an everyday challenege of huge unfathomable proportions. It would of been so easy to just hide away with his money and sulk over his misfortune, instead he fought for good causes and in making paralysis a more understood condition. Obviously he became a spokesperson for paralyzed people since he WAS paralyzed, it makes sense.

I don't see why they deserve anything but sympathy, they gave and they had it tough, just like many others who are not in the limelight, they never asked for anything more than anyone else with the same affliction.
 
$M Gayboy Bruce Wayne said:
I didn't know sympathy was a limited resource that should only be reserved for those who meet minimum eligibility requirements. There's conservative, and there's just plain cold.

But, here's where it turns into a semantics argument and I get blasted as a bleeding heart liberal, so I'm moving on from this thread...we've been here before.
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Maybe I'm a cold-hearted bastard, but yeah, my sympathy does have "conditions" for lack of a better word. It has nothing to do with me being a Conservative (here's a secret: I'm not nearly as Conservative IRL as I pretend to be here...I voted for Clinton...twice... ;) ). I guess I just can't muster up sympathy for a millionaire who got injured pursuing a hobby that has inherent dangers.

I mean, I don't feel sympathy for dumb kids who get hurt performing Jackass stunts either. I just feel like maybe it's Darwinism at work or something.
 
Mentalist said:
Actually no.


The Reeves were VERY invloved in MANY charites and events BEFORE his accident. And not just the usual stuff actors get involved with but a lot more besides.

I could go and find all the stuff they were invloved with if you like, its extensive.

I feel sorry for what happened to the Reeves as fellow human beings who were good people, not because of their fame or celebrity.


He fell of a horse and paralyzed himself, just because he was doing something he enjoyed and had some risk atached to it doesn't negate sympathy to be held for him and his family. And they didn't play it up, Reeve never felt sorry for himself, he fought it head on in the face of an everyday challenege of huge unfathomable proportions. It would of been so easy to just hide away with his money and sulk over his misfortune, instead he fought for good causes and in making paralysis a more understood condition. Obviously he became a spokesperson for paralyzed people since he WAS paralyzed, it makes sense.

I don't see why they deserve anything but sympathy, they gave and they had it tough, just like many others who are not in the limelight, they never asked for anything more than anyone else with the same affliction.
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I don't want to have a heated debate or nasty argument with you. You see it one way, I see it a different way.

You might think I'm a cold hearted bitch but let's never lose sight of the fact that you've never spent a day with me (Granted, an afternoon at Target with screaming children would only affirm your view of me but I'm a stickler for manners so don't judge me too harshly.) you'd see that I'm not a nightmarish, heartless woman. I imagine we may never meet in real life and I'm not going to try and convince you that I'm a good person because it doesn't matter. I like you, I care about you and I would never do you wrong and that's all you need to worry about. And yes, if you became paralyzed after falling off a horse you were riding for hobby or sport I would feel bad for you because it's you. I, more or less, know you, I didn't know him, I didn't care for his politics and I wasn't a fan of his acting.

As for the other numerous charities the Reeves participated in and donated to, neat, so do I, where's my Brownie Button?
 
I like you too Laker_Girl. Of course I do, thats not going to change because we dissagree sometimes, not at all.

I don't think you're a cold heartless bitch either, not in the slightest.

I didn't know Chris Reeves either but, well, I guess how ever silly it may be I was a big fan of Superman as a kid (still am obviously *looks at av*) and I thought Chris Reeves was great, and he will forever be a component of my childhood in his role as Superman.


So yeah, I guess I might be slightly bias in that respect but honestly they were good people, and its a terrible thing to happen to someone, politics be damned.


But I wasn't ragging on you, just dissagreeing tis all. ;)
 
^Okay good. :) And you know, Christopher Reeve's Superman was a big part of my childhood too. I saw the Superman movies with my brothers and have good memories of them but as an adult I just didn't appreciate Reeve's politics and as you well know, that's a big thing with me.

And just so you know, I sleep with the television on and in the middle of the night I always manage to change the channel so that I wake up to the Today Show and this morning they were doing a tribute to Dana Reeve, I squinted at the TV (27" two feet from my face but I'm blind as a bat without glasses or contacts) and said, "Dana Reeve died? How sad." I didn't wake up and say, "GOOD!"
 
I like everyone in this thread too and yes, I got a little emotional, sorry for that. Everyone is entitled to be who they are.

I guess it's my old fashioned upbringing. I get startled to hear such clinical observations about the dead so soon after they pass. I'm used to the ritualistic vague sympathies that are passed back and forth, even if they lack for substance. I didn't know the Reeves, but I know people who suffered through loss, myself included, and that is what fuels my sympathetic muscles when death occurs, even for those who I don't know or who I may even have disagreed with.

You know, the whole "any man's death diminishes me" crap. To a point. ;)
 
I don't really know how to explain it, it's like when 9/11 happened. You feel the gravity of the situation but when you're 3,000 miles away it's like a movie or a TV show. Maybe films and television are desensitizing.
 
I can also get that way about mass tragedies that happen far away, even Katrina and New Orleans.

But 9/11 will be in my gut as long as I live. And rightly so, since it happened a few miles away, on my island. Sometimes I can detach myself from it, but sometimes a whole pile of old feelings come back like a wave, and I have to brace for impact.

It's why I don't question why someone like Michael J. Fox doesn't get involved with Parkinson's research until he was diagnosed with it. That's the way humans are built--we are moved to act when we have our eyes opened for us, when it hits home or close to home. We can only do so much with our time and energies, we deal with what's on our radar.

Oh well...back to spamming, I need to lighten up. :P
 
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