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Rewatching the Star Trek films...

Volpone

Volpone

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I love the Star Trek films. (Particularly 2-4, but 6 and 8 are OK too.) Unfortunately I wasn't able to bring my videos with me to Hawaii, so I had to do without them for almost two years. I especially love the writing, themes, and performances in 2 & 3. So last night I watched TWOK and tonight was TSFS. Great, great films.

Yes, the FX are a bit dated, but I actually sort of like that. There are scenes in those films that show a very strong link to the 1960s TV show. Sure, the budget is bigger and the FX are almost 20 years newer, but a lot of the time the lighting, props, or costuming still feel a bit like the old show. I can't remember if any Styrofoam rocks are involved in the big fight on the Genesis planet, but you know what I mean.

And the "science" of Star Trek isn't there yet either. Now we know a deflector dish plays an important part in navigating a starship. But neither the Reliant or the Grissom even HAS one.

All these things said, has Harve Bennett ever written a book about his time at the helm of the franchise? Because watching III tonight, you see lots of things where you wonder what was dropped; what was cut. Why does the Klingon chick have to die because she's seen the tape? When did Klingons get cloaking devices and "Birds of Prey"?

Why didn't Uhura just stun "Mister Adventure"? Or melt the lock on the closet? It seems like she'd have been useful to have along. I guess she might've had to stay behind to run interference with the transporters or maybe help Scotty open the spacedock doors, but the story doesn't mention that.

Still, very good movies about friendship, duty, loyalty, and determination. :phpup:
 
Volpone said:
And the "science" of Star Trek isn't there yet either. Now we know a deflector dish plays an important part in navigating a starship. But neither the Reliant or the Grissom even HAS one.
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Considering that the science of the TV shows gave us things like "Transwarp turns you into a lizard!!!" that's not necessarily a bad thing.
 
Volpone said:
When did Klingons get cloaking devices and "Birds of Prey"?
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Yeah, well, you likely have heard about how when that ship was designed for the film, it was originally to have been a Romulan vessel, hence the "Bird of Prey" designation, and the cloaking device.

I don't know of any cannon, in-universe explaination. If were didn't have the rest of the films and TNG and DS9 and VOY, etc. to take into account, we could just assume that, that particular group of Klingons stole the ship from some Rommies. As a war trophy. But since that design is so popular among the Klingons, some speculate that the Klingons aquired that design durring the same period that the Rommies aquired Klingon D-7 hulls. In a time of open exchange (and it always makes me wonder jus what went down between the two parties that ended that, and made them *despise* each other so much by TNG's time. Some serious shit, I imagine.

But then Enterpise pretty much shot that theory down by having 22nd Century Klingons using more primative, but obviously Bird of Prey like ships.

And as for why that Klingon lady in :Search for Spock" was killed (and accepted her fate I have absolutely *no* idea. I mean, is there any reason why the Klingon capitan couldn't have juse beamed her aboard his ship, then blasted the freighter?

Maybe Kruge just didn't like girls?

But whatever the reason, it doesn't seem consistant with any rules of Klingon "honor" that were established later on in TNG and after. Then again, most of what Kruge did would be considered pretty damn dishonorable by even Klingon standards.

Kruge was just a dick.
 
2PAC said:
I liked all the movies except the last two.
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I think that all the Next Generation based films (the last 4) sucked bigtime except maybe "First Contact", and even it had very deep flaws.*

*(Retconing in a Borg Queen!? Bad idea...)
 
Working on VI right now. Also working on a nice glass of whisky.

Two thoughts:
1) A Google image search does not come up with the hot redhead crewman when I plug in "petty officer firecrotch.
2) More importantly, Lt Valeris ruins the whole film.
2a) Least important, it would've been so much better if, as I've heard, Valeris would've been Saavik.
2b) Everyone has pointy sideburns. Except Valeris, who has the sides of her head shaved. It's a fucked-up look that disturbs me every time she's onscreen. What were they thinking when they did it?
2c) The most egregious problem with ST:VI--Why the fuck is a Starfleet graduate wearing the red Cadet turtleneck?! Why is a Starfleet Lieutenant wearing Commander rank insignia?!

Every scene she's in--and she's kind of an important character in the movie--is ruined because her uniform is more fucked up than Richard Simmons, highballing Rohypnol in a San Francisco leather bar during Fleet Week while "YMCA" plays on the jukebox.
 
I think she decided on the hair herself, they should have overruled her though and stuck on some falsies, like they did for Shatner when he accidently turned up for trek V without growing in his sideburns, but a fake moustache in half and you are good to go.
 
Valeris' hair grew out, and she got better as she aged:

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OMG NIP SLIP LOL
 
My roommate was watching the "Sex In The City" movie the other day, and rather sit in my room downloading midget porn like a serial killer, I decided to watch it with her.

Apart from looking older than Bea Arthur, Kim Catrall was OK in that movie.

Actually, watching that was a big factor in the Trek film marathon. True, I hadn't seen them in awhile, but I also needed to regulate the levels of chick-flick in my body.

Anyhow, rumor had it that she got in hot water during the shoot for posing for a nude photo sitting in the Captain's chair, wearing her Vulcan ears. Sadly, this is before the World-Wide Web and digital photography. :(
 
I might be imagining this, but I think the reason Cattral had the sides of her head shaved was because they had been shaved for her role in one of my all-time guilty pleasure flicks, Split Second, with Rutger Hauer.

I haven't seen that in ages, but I think the sides of her head had been shaved (futuristic look and all that shit).

I highly recommend Split Second. You get to see Cattral's very nice tits when they were still perky.

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