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Starfleet Academy - It's Happening

Each episode costs about $6-10 million to produce.

I sincerely hope and pray someone at Paramount gets put up against the wall and shot for this as a hard example to others.

(On a side note: the premiere episode of VOY cost $23 million to shoot and pulled an over the air audience of 21.3 million viewers.

You know, back when Star Trek was good?)
 
Part of the reason VOY's pilot cost $23M was that they basically had to shoot it twice with recasting and other problems... but the show was single-handedly launching a new TV network so they were all-in no matter what it was gonna cost...
 
Some of these fuckers better be getting hopped up on goofballs in the bathroom!
 
Eggs Mayonnaise said:
Part of the reason VOY's pilot cost $23M was that they basically had to shoot it twice with recasting and other problems... but the show was single-handedly launching a new TV network so they were all-in no matter what it was gonna cost...
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That's true, but not a major factor. Bujold wasn't on the set that long. But now that you point it out, it being the flagship show (and the only survivor of Paramount's first season, IIRC), probably explains a lot of the spending... and it did look good.
 
The Beer Hall Pooch said:
Each episode costs about $6-10 million to produce.

I sincerely hope and pray someone at Paramount gets put up against the wall and shot for this as a hard example to others.

(On a side note: the premiere episode of VOY cost $23 million to shoot and pulled an over the air audience of 21.3 million viewers.

You know, back when Star Trek was good?)
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Adjusted for inflation, Voyager was already in the $7–8 million per episode range, and it was pumping out 26 episodes a season. Starfleet Academy is looking at around 10 episodes, which is just the modern TV model.

On total spend alone, it’s cheaper than Voyager ever was.
 
Mentalist said:
Adjusted for inflation, Voyager was already in the $7–8 million per episode range, and it was pumping out 26 episodes a season. Starfleet Academy is looking at around 10 episodes, which is just the modern TV model.

On total spend alone, it’s cheaper than Voyager ever was.
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With the viewership numbers to match.
 
1.3 - The plot is fine and again its heart continues to be in the right place. I liked the reveal that Ake was trying to help the cadets all along and I liked the talking plant things. There's reasonable character moments. But the biggest issue with this episode is it just felt too long. A full hour long for what was ultimately a pretty light plot. I got a bit bored during the laser-tag game in the middle, which could have surely been cut down a bit. Could have done with a b-story (and obviously this is unrelated but I started thinking about how Fallout only has 8 episode this season and they last about 50 minutes and have to cut between four plotlines...Fallout should be longer is what I'm saying) or something.

After not doing much in episode 2 it was disappointing that Robert Picardo wasn't in this one at all. I hope they have some plan for him to get a proper story later in the season.

I like Reno a lot more here than in Discovery. She feels like an actual person here who cares about things and not just someone who shows up twice a season to flatly deliver exposition. Pairing her with Thok is a good idea.

Humour was a mixed bag again: I continue to dislike using 21st century terms like "dumpster fire", but I guess that's just what the show is like and I better get used to it. I wish they woud give Sam more character moments and bit less screaming. Jay-Den made me laugh a couple of times, so that was good. Don't really care about Reymi yet.

The mugato mascot costume was cute.

It's nice that the Vulcan and Romulan are friends, even if they are jerks.

So yeah probably the weakest episode but I didn't really have a problem with the story or anything that happened in it.
 
I liked it while I was watching it, but as soon as it ended it felt like the episode immediately faded away from my memory.
 
Maybe I'll watch it during this weekend's snowstorm while I'm mostly gonna be trapped inside with some beer and weed. -23C actual temperatures aren't a lot of fun.
 
Colonel Kira's Left Tit said:
Maybe I'll watch it during this weekend's snowstorm while I'm mostly gonna be trapped inside with some beer and weed. -23C actual temperatures aren't a lot of fun.
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Ouch. We're looking at single digit lows. That's single digit F, because we use Freedom Units here.

Still no-go on any scale you use.

No fucking way I'm watching any more of this dogshit. I'll probably catch up on Taylor Sheridan shows... you know... that guy who is kicking the shit out of everything and can actually write?

Maybe they should get him to do a ST show. I'd love to see that happen.

Star Trek: Colonizer... a problematic Starfleet officer with a dark secret is sent to set up a Federation mining colony on a remote planet uncomfortably close to the Romulan Neutral Zone. His Chief Administrator is a fat has-been who habitually snorts tribble ashes and can't keep his hands off the females. The chief foreman was released from a dilithium mining operation after he was found to be dealing dilithium shards to the Pakleds. The Chief Engineer is retired Starfleet officer Leland T. Lynch, an arrogant man who developed an unreasonable fear of starships after Commander Riker once locked him in an airlock and repeatedly pressed a disconnected eject button. For an hour.

Fucking shit writes itself. No fat lezzies, no gay Klingons, no cadets in wheelchairs, no swallowing your own comm badge.

Just good family entertainment, god damn it.
 
The Beer Hall Pooch said:
Ouch. We're looking at single digit lows. That's single digit F, because we use Freedom Units here.

Still no-go on any scale you use.

No fucking way I'm watching any more of this dogshit. I'll probably catch up on Taylor Sheridan shows... you know... that guy who is kicking the shit out of everything and can actually write?

Maybe they should get him to do a ST show. I'd love to see that happen.

Star Trek: Colonizer... a problematic Starfleet officer with a dark secret is sent to set up a Federation mining colony on a remote planet uncomfortably close to the Romulan Neutral Zone. His Chief Administrator is a fat has-been who habitually snorts tribble ashes and can't keep his hands off the females. The chief foreman was released from a dilithium mining operation after he was found to be dealing dilithium shards to the Pakleds. The Chief Engineer is retired Starfleet officer Leland T. Lynch, an arrogant man who developed an unreasonable fear of starships after Commander Riker once locked him in an airlock and repeatedly pressed a disconnected eject button. For an hour.

Fucking shit writes itself. No fat lezzies, no gay Klingons, no cadets in wheelchairs, no swallowing your own comm badge.

Just good family entertainment, god damn it.
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Well, regardless of all of that I decided I'll give this show a full season watch. I'm not exactly enjoying it so far and it's in no way a priority, but it's winter and there isn't much else on. Plus hey, I'm not paying for it, either. At worst it's a waste of time, not money. ;)
 
The story was good, but they did drag it out.
 
Colonel Kira's Left Tit said:
We can. Regardless of the character I do like Holly Hunter, and she's clearly having fun with the role.
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She reminds me of a woman named Rhea I went to college with. Rhea had, I think, five surnames on her Social Security card.

She pranced around thinking all the freshmen dudes should be trying to get with her. None did because they preferred women who could still get it wet and you didn't need to tie a plank across your ass before you dove in.

She wound up running some tutoring service as a student tutor, but never showed up half the time. But she was tight with one of the English professors who had actually fucking met William Faulkner and thought her shit didn't stink either, so Rhea kept her quasi-job.

This was when we could actually smoke in the class building hallways... a more civilized time... and she would hang in the hallway outside the tutoring services chain smoking and eyeballing young guys like they were hamburger meat. When she talked she sounded like a trucker who caught his nuts in the truck door.

Yeah, that's what Holly Hunter means to me.
 
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