Doctor Who fans to lose their shit again (season 14)

[whisky]

I liked that.

 

[CaptainWacky]

It sounds like the Doctor Who theme!

 

[Volpone]

Bah. I like the themes they used up until 1979 or so. Spooky and electronic.

 

[whisky]

We're a month away, Doctor who returns 25th of November.

 

[CaptainWacky]

At first I read it as all three episodes coming to Disney+ on the 25th but being weekly on the BBC and thought "OH BOY THIS WILL CAUSE OUTRAGE" but I was wrong and they're coming weekly on both. DODGED AN MISREAD BULLET THERE.

 

[CaptainWacky]

Stop trying to make "Whoniverse" a thing.

 

[CaptainWacky]

Actually pretty good for a Children In Need throwaway sketch.

 

[whisky]

Apparently Davros won't be crippled any more as a guy in a wheelchair being a villain gives off the wrong message.

 

[CaptainWacky]

I never even thought of him being crippled. I thought he'd just turned himself into a half Dalek over the years.

 

[StarMan™]

I applaud RTD for this bold, progressive move.

I say: keep up the momentum.

 

[Eggs Mayonnaise]

 

[StarMan™]

One can understand the rationale behind the argument being put forth, yet still comfortably object to the decision made.

Going forward with new characters? Sure. There isn't a shortage of positive representation for those with disabilities in the new season, from what I understand. But pulling this stunt with a character as iconic as Davros is an over-correction, to put it mildly.

What's more - at least from the various sources I've gleaned today - retconning Davros from a "disabled" character to able-bodied has gone down like a cup of cold sick with those not able-bodied. I'm buggered if I can see who wins from this.

I'd be curious how many individuals not able-bodied were consulted. Davies spoke of the production staff's reservations; many of them are not able-bodied?

 

[Lanzman]

Let's be blunt here: it's a fucking stupid move. Davros is Davros.

 

[StarMan™]

I was thinking of other examples where this treatment could be applied.

Perhaps a re-re-re-release of the SW trilogies addresses longstanding concerns over the portrayal of burn victims as villain-types.

Anakin respected the high ground, after all.

 

[StarMan™]

I never even thought of him being crippled. I thought he'd just turned himself into a half Dalek over the years.

Same here. I came across a tweet from a wheelchair-bound man known for his Davros cosplays. He commented on how much he loved connecting with other fans and how it had been a real boost to his self-esteem. He went on to say he never once came across negative feedback from fellow wheelchair users. Most of the time, they expressed their jealousy of Davros' chair and wished they had a similar pimped-out ride.

 

[whisky]

Pike dosnt end up in a wheelchair, he just gets a scar on his cheek.

 

[CaptainWacky]

Maybe he'll have robot legs now.

 

[Volpone]

This kind of ruins Davros' character. If he, as a result of the war, winds up horribly crippled, blind, and in a wheelchair, it makes sense that he would be driven to create machines to provide mobility and survival to what he thinks is going to become of his race. I won't go so far as to say he's a sympathetic character, but you can at least understand his motivation and how, from his perspective, he's doing the right thing. But if he's completely able-bodied, then he's just a "MUWAHAHAHAHA! EEEEEVILLL!!!" cardboard character who wants to cripple and disfigure his own people because, reasons.

I say again, the reason Khan is such a good villain in TWoK is because Montalban played him as the hero; in Khan's eyes, he's doing the right thing.

 

[whisky]

Twelve gave him some regeneration energy, I guess they could use that, the writing was on the wall once he opened his eyes.

 

[whisky]

2 hours to go!