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What the fuck is wrong with all these religious cock goblers that love to sit around and shove their religion in the faces of others?

Now I'm Roman Catholic, But when some guy claiming to be christian goes and tries to bullshit an excuse of why he has more of a right to voice his opinion then another person who's athiest, it just sets me off, especially seeing how Tolerance is one of the big ideas sported by christianity.

I dont care about religion. I believe in tolerance and equality. This goes with the rights of women, race, sex preference, whatever, just dont try and ram your belief into me and try to make me a follower.

What the hell gives one person the right to go and say the fact that their religion, and I dont want to get started on christianity not being a true religion because that would take hours and I actully want and try get back into bed even if all I'll do is toss and turn until the sun peeks through my window and my roommate wakes up, makes them better then anyone else?

Pardon the rant, but it's 3:30 in the morning, I cant sleep and haven't been able to for the past week and a half save for an hour or two here and there, and I'm sick of arguing religion with rejects who dont understand basics of debating.
 
A young woman approached my car when I stopped at the drycleaners this afternoon. She was carrying a box, asked "May I speak with you a moment." I said, "Sure, but I'm not buying anything." She said, "That is okay. I just want to make you aware of the work my church is ..." I cut her off. "I don't want to hear about your church either." Her face went all sad, "But, we're doing good work for children." I said, "Go away and good luck to you."

She nabbed my daughter inside the drycleaners - tried to sell her some useless trinket for $35 "to help the children." My kid would have given her $35 if she'd had it.

I'm sick of those parasites with their pathetic lies- "we're going to help children." BS - they're going to beat children into submission, brainwash them to their belief system.

So, why are you loosing sleep? Still ticked at the religious nutcase?

When I can't sleep - which is often, what helps is:
taking 2 aspirins
turning on some soft instrumental music, kind of low,
and burning a candle - something like honeysuckle, light scent

What really helps is taking everything out of the bedroom but the bed and furniture for clothes - no TVs, computers, or books. Pretty soon, the mind gets in gear for sleep whenever I go to my bedroom, instead of thinking about doing other things.

Good luck to you.
 
Okay, I agree that religion can seriously fuck up kids (well, actually, parents seriously fuck them up in the name of religion)...

BUT.

Some Christian groups actually do very good work. They run orphanages, offer support to sick people and their families, build homes for the poor, provide food and shelter to the homeless, open their own homes to victims of natural disaster, and many other things.

Don't get me wrong - I hate having someone try to preach their religion to me. It's annoying as hell. There are some really obnoxious Christians out there, and some I'd call criminal in the twisted ways they raise their kids. But not all of them are like that. I try to assume the best when I run across someone knocking on doors to invite people to church or asking for donations for some church project. Because a lot of them are actually kind, caring people who are trying to do some good.
 
When I was doing Vita-Flex, the guy that owned the product part of the company was a "born again" and would slip a tract in with a tip whenever he tipped for service.

I made him stop doing that.

Ususally I don't have trouble sleeping at night, but last night was a total exception. I didnt get to bed til 4, and am pretty spaced out this morning.

Why cant you sleep DL?
 
Morrhigan said:
Okay, I agree that religion can seriously fuck up kids (well, actually, parents seriously fuck them up in the name of religion)...

BUT.

Some Christian groups actually do very good work. They run orphanages, offer support to sick people and their families, build homes for the poor, provide food and shelter to the homeless, open their own homes to victims of natural disaster, and many other things.

Don't get me wrong - I hate having someone try to preach their religion to me. It's annoying as hell. There are some really obnoxious Christians out there, and some I'd call criminal in the twisted ways they raise their kids. But not all of them are like that. I try to assume the best when I run across someone knocking on doors to invite people to church or asking for donations for some church project. Because a lot of them are actually kind, caring people who are trying to do some good.
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But they ALL think the rest of us are going to hell. To which I reply, you fucking go to hell.
 
Morrhigan said:
Okay, I agree that religion can seriously fuck up kids (well, actually, parents seriously fuck them up in the name of religion)...

BUT.

Some Christian groups actually do very good work. They run orphanages, offer support to sick people and their families, build homes for the poor, provide food and shelter to the homeless, open their own homes to victims of natural disaster, and many other things.
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Yes, I know they run orphanages. I lived in one for 3 years from 10 to 13. When they weren't working me to death, they were beating the hell out of me for falling asleep in church because Jesus loves me, this I know.
 
My wife says being Roman Catholic is about as far away from being a Christian as she can imagine. In fact, when I put the two together, we always get into a big fight.
 
Yeah religious nutjobs suck. But I think it's funny when people get mad about religious nutjobs, too.

If you're in either camp, you are getting trolled by the universe IMO.
 
It's not about religion. It's about control. In the US, they have the right, and you have the right to tell them to STFU. But they know you won't do that. You're a nice person. They also know you can get a restraining order. At 29 dollars a whack, it gets expensive. They also know that you can invite them to your belief system, but you won't. They already know that you are unaccustomed to their level of aggression. They already know that you know how to not buy trouble. If they ask you for money, tell them you're tapped out from paying for the restraining order you took out on them.
 
SilentBtViolent said:
Yeah religious nutjobs suck. But I think it's funny when people get mad about religious nutjobs, too.

If you're in either camp, you are getting trolled by the universe IMO.
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That is one of those things that sounds deep, and there is even some truth to it; however, religious nutjobs will likely kill you. At least the anti-religious groups don't feel compelled to knock on my door and ask me if I have "been saved" or crash airplanes into towers.
 
I disagree a bit, eloisel, because nutjobs are generally dangerous despite whatever comforting belief system they choose to fixate on -- be it belief in God, conpiracy, the Bermuda Triangle, aliens, Dianetics, communism or whatever.

The freakazoids who are unstable just gravitate toward the nearest person who claims to have all the answers, IMO. The problem is when they are organized, motivated, and put to ill use by a charismatic nutjobs. (Hitler, bin Laden, McCarthy, whatever.) At the end of the day it's better to just laugh at the nuts and hope nobody with a majorly bad agenda gets ahold of them.

Terrorism is what I spend my professional life looking at, and in my opinion the majority of the bad guys are well educated, eloquent, intelligent, and fruity as fuck. There is just a basic dysfunction in people who lose their sense of the value of human life, IMO. A terrorist is like a rabid dog or a tiger with a taste for human flesh: they lose their right to live and need to be put down as gently and quickly as possible.

So what I'm saying is that any crackpot can kill you, it's just when the world is unlucky enough to have them fall into a system that gives them license to kill, get into mayhem, whatever, that shit really hits the fan. Up until that point, you really don't have any other option than to shrug it off, because arguing with a crazy person is pointless (as we all know).
 
Meh, the reason I dont sleep much is just simple Insomnia. It's most likely caused by Anxiety due to the ass load of work my college has just dumped on me because Finals are next week.

Sardonica said:
Huh?
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I should have explained that in more detail. I was brought up by Italian Grandparents, so I had Roman Catholocism drilled into me. I still call myself RC, I have the beliefs, somewhere, but I dont practice.

I go crazy when some trys to shove their religious points down my throat. I mean, when I go out to grab a pizza, I dont want to run into some dumb ass people who cant see past their own religion, preaching to me that unless I buy some trinket, I'm going to hell.
 
SilentBtViolent said:
I disagree a bit, eloisel, because nutjobs are generally dangerous despite whatever comforting belief system they choose to fixate on -- be it belief in God, conpiracy, the Bermuda Triangle, aliens, Dianetics, communism or whatever.

The freakazoids who are unstable just gravitate toward the nearest person who claims to have all the answers, IMO. The problem is when they are organized, motivated, and put to ill use by a charismatic nutjobs. (Hitler, bin Laden, McCarthy, whatever.) At the end of the day it's better to just laugh at the nuts and hope nobody with a majorly bad agenda gets ahold of them.

Terrorism is what I spend my professional life looking at, and in my opinion the majority of the bad guys are well educated, eloquent, intelligent, and fruity as fuck. There is just a basic dysfunction in people who lose their sense of the value of human life, IMO. A terrorist is like a rabid dog or a tiger with a taste for human flesh: they lose their right to live and need to be put down as gently and quickly as possible.

So what I'm saying is that any crackpot can kill you, it's just when the world is unlucky enough to have them fall into a system that gives them license to kill, get into mayhem, whatever, that shit really hits the fan. Up until that point, you really don't have any other option than to shrug it off, because arguing with a crazy person is pointless (as we all know).
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I agree it is best not to get too upset by the intrusion of overzealous persons who really think they are trying to do something good for other persons - raising money for charity and such. However, I think we need a proactive stance when it comes to people who are eager to find justification to kill other people. It is a truism - them that will war will find someone with whom to war, and that is when all of us in the middle get hurt. Then again, that is where the Catch 22 comes in - the more we in the middle do to protect ourselves, the more we become like those on the outer fringes. Your cosmic trolling statement is more accurate than I gave it credit for.
 
I remember when these Jehovah's Witness came to call, I was in college, at a friends tripping my brains out, roasting fresh beets in foil in the oven.

It was, needless to say, quite an exchange, especially when the beets were done.
 
Getting the Johovah's Witnesses to back off is fairly simple. You simply tell them that you do have the right head knowledge, but not the right heart condition. That means something to them.

I'm lapsed Catholic myself, but eons ago when I was at home during the day, I did study with the Baptist, Johovah's Witnesses, and Mormans. Once you understand what they are all about you are able to dispense with them much faster.

I still use my old EST training too. Smile, say "no thank you" and shut up. It spoils their rehersed spiel and they don't know what to do when you are non communicative. This usually works best when you are in a confined area, such as your front door or car. On the street, I just refuse to let them catch my eye and walk with a purpose.

Most, if not all, religious zealots are crazies. They believe in what their belief system so much that the amount of investment means they must do whatever it takes to force others to see their point of view, or get rid of you.

As for a sleep aide -- I find that listening to books on tape helps. It is reminicent of being a child again and having someone read bedtime stories to you. It doesn't matter what the tape is about, just play it and allow your mind to relax. I used to be a total insomniac living on 2-4 hours of sleep a night for YEARS. Needless to say, I was very tired and bedtime was a struggle. Perhaps it is because I am so ancient now that I can sleep easier, but the books on tape really help. I never make it to the end of one side of the tape before sleep takes me. However, on Sunday nights, it usually takes 2 tapes to fall asleep as Monday starts a new work week -- and I hate working anymore.
 
jack said:
Why cant you sleep DL?
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Vap will sell you these great black market dog vitamins that'll put you to sleep quicker than a baseball bat to the head; the only problem is waking up.

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