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Massive Israeli attacks [updated]

Caitriona

Something Wicked
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/w...&en=661ad5ef4aa83bb0&ei=5094&partner=homepage

July 16, 2006
Israeli Bombs Fall Near Syria as Ripples Grow
By GREG MYRE
METULA, Israel, July 15 — In wide-ranging airstrikes, Israel continued to hit Beirut and other targets in Lebanon on Saturday, killing at least a dozen people in a civilian refugee convoy in the south. And Hezbollah forces continued their rocket barrage into northern Israel, striking the resort city of Tiberias for the first time.

Ripples from the widening conflict stirred a meeting of world leaders near St. Petersburg, Russia, where President Bush called on Syria to use its influence with Hezbollah to end the fighting.

The Israeli Air Force bombed bridges and access roads near Lebanon’s eastern border with Syria, the Israeli military said. The attack was seen as a further warning to Syria, which supports both Hezbollah and Hamas, though no Syrian sites were hit, the military said.

In another development, an Israeli military official claimed that Iranian Revolutionary Guards were involved on some level in a missile strike that badly damaged an Israeli missile ship off Lebanon’s capital Beirut on Friday, killing one Israeli sailor. Three others are missing.

The official said the exact role of the Revolutionary Guards was not clear. Dozens of the Iranian fighters have been known to be in Lebanon, working with Hezbollah, for more than two decades, and Iran provides a large part of the group’s financing.

Israel’s military initially said the ship was hit by an unpiloted drone aircraft packed with explosives. But the military revised its assessment on Saturday, saying the ship was hit by a radar-guided, C802 missile supplied by Iran that was fired from the Lebanese shore. The ship, which was part of a naval blockade of Lebanon, returned home on Saturday, the military said.

Meanwhile, many residents on both sides of the Israel-Lebanon border have been fleeing the frontier to avoid the heavy shooting. The fighting there erupted on Wednesday with a Hezbollah attack that led to the capture of two Israeli soldiers. A total of eight Israeli soldiers have been killed in the fighting.

Hezbollah unleashed more than 40 Katyusha rockets deep into northern Israel on Saturday, striking the resort town of Tiberias for the first time.

Several buildings were hit and damaged, though there were no serious injuries, Israeli officials said. Sunbathers scrambled for cover after the attacks, and the town, which had been full of activity, quickly fell quiet and the streets became deserted.

The Israeli bombing broke a temporary lull in Beirut, as warplanes again attacked targets in the capital’s southern suburbs.

Explosions rocked the skyline as warplanes targeted a building attached to Hezbollah’s headquarters, in the Haret Hreik neighborhood. The complex had already been mostly destroyed in a bombing Friday night, and Hezbollah confirmed that the strikes on Saturday finished the destruction, though no one was inside.

Israeli warplanes pounded roads in the south, destroying bridges and arteries, dividing large parts of the country from each other.

The Lebanese refugee convoy that was attacked was fleeing the border village of Marwaheen when it was struck, and at least 12 people, including women and children, were killed when two cars were hit, according to The Associated Press. The Israeli military said it was checking on the report and had no immediate comment.

Warplanes also bombed roads in the north and east of the country, cutting off some of the last remaining roads leading out of Lebanon. Three civilians were reported killed in another Israeli strike on the main highway linking Lebanon to Syria.

Over all, more than 80 Lebanese have been killed, most of them civilians, and more than 200 wounded, in the past four days, according to Lebanese officials. Hezbollah rockets have killed four Israeli civilians and wounded more than 150 since the barrage began on Wednesday.

Despite talks at the United Nations, the Group of 8 leaders meeting in St. Petersburg, Russia, and an emergency session of Arab League foreign ministers in Cairo, there were no signs of a diplomatic progress. The crisis has raised concerns that the turmoil could further destabilize the region.

President Bush took his toughest line yet with Syria and Hezbollah during a joint appearance with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir V. Putin, in a suburb outside St. Petersburg, where they were preparing for the Group of 8 summit meeting. In a break from his past statements, he did not call upon Israel to show restraint.

“In my judgment, the best way to stop the violence is to understand why the violence occurred in the first place,†Mr. Bush said. “And that’s because Hezbollah has been launching rocket attacks out of Lebanon into Israel, and because Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers. That’s why we have violence.â€

Singling out Syria for its support of Hezbollah, he called upon its leadership to intercede to stop the violence. “The best way to stop the violence is for Hezbollah to lay down its arms, and to stop attacking,†Mr. Bush said. “And, therefore, I call upon Syria to exert influence over Hezbollah.â€

Later, Stephen J. Hadley, Mr. Bush’s national security adviser, elaborated by saying that it now fell to both Syria and Iran to step in and persuade Hezbollah to stand down. “These two countries bear some responsibility for what happened, and they also bear some responsibility for turning it around,†Mr. Hadley said.

Israeli leaders have warned that the battle could be a long one, and say that Israel will not accept a return to the conditions that existed before the fighting broke out, with Hezbollah and not the Lebanese Army controlling Lebanon’s southern border with Israel.

“We can’t go back to the status quo,†said Mark Regev, a spokesman for Israel’s Foreign Ministry. “That would mean that Hezbollah still has its finger on the trigger and can start a regional crisis whenever that serves its interest.â€

Israel’s military goal is to push Hezbollah away from the border so it cannot strike at Israel, Mr. Regev said. The political goal, he said, is to carry out a United Nations Security Council resolution, passed two years ago, that calls for the Lebanese government to take control of its southern border and disarm militias, like Hezbollah.

Italy began evacuating its citizens from Lebanon on Saturday while the United States and France prepared to do the same as Israeli planes pounded the country, Reuters reported.

About 410 people left Beirut in an Italian convoy early on Saturday, Italy’s Foreign Ministry said. The group was mostly made up of Italians and other Europeans, who were expected to arrive in the Syrian port city of Latakia in the coming hours.

The United States State Department said it was working with the Defense Department on a plan to transport Americans to Cyprus, from where it recommended they return to the United States by commercial airlines. The State Department estimates that about 25,000 American citizens, including people with dual citizenship, live in Lebanon, although summer visits could expand that number.

The Lebanese government has demanded an end to the Israeli air, naval and artillery strikes on Lebanon. The government has also disavowed the cross-border raid by Hezbollah that ignited the fighting. But the Lebanese leadership has said and done little as the crisis has expanded, and the government has not given any indication that it will act against Hezbollah, even as it continued its strikes into northern Israel.

Most northern Israeli cities are now ghost towns, with residents having fled south, taken refuge in bomb shelters or simply remaining inside their homes.

Israeli security officials have said for some time that Hezbollah had longer-range rockets, but the recent attacks have still alarmed many Israelis.

Tiberias, on the Sea of Galilee, is about 20 miles south of the Lebanese border, and no Hezbollah rockets had landed near the town. However, Hezbollah demonstrated its increased range when on Thursday it struck the Mediterranean port city of Haifa, which is also around 20 miles from the border. Hezbollah has denied that it targeted Haifa.

Several Katyusha rockets scored direct hits on empty buildings on Saturday. In Hatzor Haglilit, a small hillside community surrounded by pine trees, a rocket crashed through the red-tile roof of a home and damaged the living home, but the residents had gone to Tel Aviv, neighbors said.

Before this week, the last time the community was shelled was in the 1960’s by Syrian forces in the Golan Heights, several miles to the east, according to the mayor, Shaul Kamisa. Israel captured the heights from Syria in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

But more than 20 rockets have hit in and around the community in the past four days.

“We never dreamed the terror would arrive here,†Mr. Kamisa said as he inspected the damaged home.

One Israeli man, Rafi Cohen, traveled north to show solidarity with people in the coastal town of Nahariya, which has been hit hard. But when he showed up at the beach, which is usually crowded on Saturdays during the summer, he found himself alone, and a bit surprised.

“We should show Hezbollah how strong we are and live our lives as normal,†Mr. Cohen told Israel radio.

In the Gaza Strip, meanwhile, the Israeli Air Force bombed Gaza City, hitting the Palestinian Ministry of National Economy and a factory suspected of making rockets.

Palestinians said one man was killed and about a dozen wounded in the attack on the factory, which was in a residential area of Gaza City, Palestinians said. Hamas militants quickly took control of the bomb site, where there was a deep crater.

Palestinian militants also fired rockets into southern Israel on Saturday, but they did not cause damage or injuries.
 
Israel’s military initially said the ship was hit by an unpiloted drone aircraft packed with explosives. But the military revised its assessment on Saturday, saying the ship was hit by a radar-guided, C802 missile supplied by Iran.

At least one of those assessments has to be complete bullshit. The "assessments" of what struck the ship are too radically different -- and the second one far too convenient -- to be anything else.

That would be like Bush coming out a few days after Sept. 11th to say, Oh those weren't airliners! They were Iraqi suicide parachutists!
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/w...&en=0ec1a8cec5ecad4b&ei=5094&partner=homepage

July 16, 2006
Israel Strikes Back After Rockets Kill 8 in Haifa
By JAD MOUAWAD and STEVEN ERLANGER
BEIRUT, Lebanon, July 16 — The Lebanese militia Hezbollah unleashed its biggest and deadliest missile yet into Israel on Sunday, killing eight people in the major port city of Haifa and prompting Israeli leaders to step up their military campaign to drive the group from southern Lebanon.

Within an hour, Israeli warplanes engaged in a fierce bombardment of targets in south Beirut and southern Lebanon, killing some 45 people and wounding more than 100, according to local reports. Among the dead were eight Canadians, with another six critically injured, largely from an air attack on the border town of Aitaroun, where they were vacationing, the Canadian government reported.

The Lebanese government estimated the damages at more than $500 million, not including loss of tourism and commerce.

The rocket attacks on Haifa and elsewhere in northern Israel prompted police to order residents into shelters. The biggest rocket, which Israel said was Syrian-made, hit a busy railway maintenance building, destroying the roof, killing eight, wounding more than 20 and leaving congealing pools of blood on the platform.

The missile, which Israel said was a Syrian-produced model of a Iranian Fajr-3 model, has a range of more than 30 miles and carries a warhead with about 100 pounds of high explosives, which includes antipersonnel shrapnel, a significant change from the smaller Katyushas that Hezbollah has mostly been using.

The impact of the deaths and the new missile in Haifa marked a qualitative and psychological escalation of the conflict on its fifth day, with the Israeli defense minister, Amir Peretz, saying, "For those who live in the Hezbollah neighborhood in Beirut and feel protected, the situation has changed.’’

The Israeli air attacks on Beirut’s southern suburbs, where Hezbollah has its headquarters, continued throughout the day and evening, following heavy raids on Saturday against Hezbollah offices and apartment houses and, the Israelis said, the bunkers underneath them where Mr. Nasrallah has spent much of his time.

Streets were deserted, littered by debris, broken glass and parts of shattered buildings. Heavy plumes of black smoke rose over the city in the late afternoon as Israeli jets circled over the shut Beirut airport, hitting fuel storage tanks and an oil refinery.

"We are facing a real annihilation carried out by Israel," Lebanon’s information minister, Ghazi Aridi, said after an emergency cabinet meeting. Beirut had an eerie, empty feel, with many residents having fled to the surrounding mountains.

At an underground parking lot in Beirut, some 2,000 families, many of them from the south, were camped out Sunday night after abandoning their villages. Hani Mudaid, from Mashrafieh, said, "I saw all the bad things of the war. It’s very hard for me now to see my kids see them too."

The leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, promised Israel "new surprises’’ and said Hezbollah had "no choice’’ but to hit Haifa. "As long as the enemy acts without limitations or red lines, it’s our right to continue the confrontation without limits,’’ he said, in a taped speech shown on Hezbollah’s Al Manar television station.

Mr. Nasrallah appeared from the waist up to be unhurt, despite unconfirmed reports that he had been wounded in an Israeli strike on his bunker in southern Beirut.

In Iran, the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, called Hezbollah “a genuine Islamic movement whose progress should become an example for the Muslim world.â€

Israeli planes dropped leaflets over parts of southern Lebanon, urging civilians to leave. Israeli Army officials say that Hezbollah stores rockets and portable launchers among the civilian population, in apartments, garages and shops.

The Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, vowed that Israel will "continue doing whatever is necessary to achieve our goals,’’ to drive Hezbollah from the border with Lebanon and to secure the release of captured Israeli soldiers. "Nothing will deter us,’’ he said, "whatever far-reaching ramifications there may be regarding our relations on the northern border and in the region.’’

But Israel has no plans to attack Syria or Iran "on our own initiative,’’ Mr. Olmert told the Israeli cabinet. Isaac Herzog, a cabinet member, said: "We know their responsibility. But at this moment, we concentrate on Lebanon.’’

Meeting in St. Petersburg, Russia, the leaders of the Group of 8 leading industrial countries blamed "extremist forces’’ and "those who support them" for the upsurge of Middle East violence. They urged Israel to exercise "utmost restraint" and expressed their "deepening concern for rising civilian casualties on all sides and the damage to infrastructure."

The leaders did not call for an immediate cease-fire, but urged Hezbollah to restore peace by releasing captured Israelis and ending attacks on Israel, followed by the withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza and the release of detained Palestinian legislators belonging to Hamas.

The Israelis say their operation, which follows a Hezbollah raid into Israel, is intended to "dismantle the capabilities’’ of Hezbollah, ensure that it no longer faces Israelis "nose-to-nose" across the border and allow the government of Lebanon, with international help, to take control over its own borders.

The Israelis want the United Nations Security Council to implement its Resolution 1559 of September 2004, which calls for the Lebanese Army to control the border, for foreigners to return home and for Hezbollah’s extensive military operation to be dismantled.

The Israeli military says dozens of Iranian Revolutionary Guards are in southern Lebanon as trainers and advisers to Hezbollah, which Iran helped set up with Syrian help in 1982 to fight Israel in southern Lebanon. Iranians train special missile-launching units, but do not fire the missiles themselves, said a senior Israeli military official, who was authorized to speak to a reporter only if his name and division were not disclosed.

Mr. Nasrallah denies that any Iranian soldiers are in southern Lebanon.

Hezbollah, according to the senior Israeli military official, has some 12,000 120-millimeter Katyusha rockets, with a range of six to 15 miles and a warhead of nearly 40 pounds. So far, Hezbollah has launched fewer than 900 of them.

Hezbollah also has "a few hundred’’ Fajr-3 and Fajr-5 missiles — the older Fajr-3, 240-millimeter missile with a range of about 30 miles, and the Fajr-5, a 333-millimeter missile with a range of about 45 miles, the military official said. Both carry larger warheads, the first with a payload of 200 pounds (of which roughly half is high explosive), and the second, about 440 pounds.

Hezbollah also has a small number of missiles with a range longer than the Fajr-5, the official said, but he would not be more specific. Some analysts believe that Hezbollah has a few Iranian Zelzal missiles, with a range of 60 to 85 miles, which could reach the outskirts of Tel Aviv.

"Some of the missiles are made in Iran and some in Syria,’’ the official said. "It’s a demonstration of the way Hezbollah is a tool for those countries to advance their interests in the Middle East — and not only against Israel.’’

Israel had deployed a battery of Patriot missiles near Haifa to try to protect the city, but the antimissile system is not designed for these missiles, the Israeli Army said. Rockets also hit Acre, Nahariya and other northern towns, and Israel declared a form of martial law, allowing the police and the army to order residents into shelters.

The Israeli chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, said that Israel had intercepted a convoy of Syrian rockets heading into Lebanon, and that the air force had destroyed five portable missile launchers after they were brought out of hiding and used.

The Israelis also said that one of their ships had been damaged not by a Hezbollah drone, but by a sophisticated Iranian C-802 missile, which is radar-guided and which the Israelis admitted that they had not known Hezbollah possessed. They said the missiles, one of which sank a civilian ship, were launched with the aid of Lebanese military radar along the shore. Israel then destroyed most of the radar.

In Gaza, where an Israeli soldier was taken after being captured by Palestinian militants on June 25, Israeli tanks and troops re-entered northern Gaza under the cover of helicopter gunships. The soldiers took over open land near Beit Hanun, often used by militants to launch rockets into Israel. In firefights and missiles strikes, three Palestinian militants were killed.

In Tel Aviv, some 2,000 people, both Jewish and Arab, marched to demand an end to the Israeli offensive in Lebanon. The demonstrators, organized by Israeli peace groups, chanted: "Yes to a prisoner exchange," and "Yes to peace."

Jad Mouawad reported from Beirut for this article, and Steven Erlanger from Jerusalem. Reporting for this article was contributed by Greg Myre from Haifa, Hassan Fattah and Nada Bakri from Beirut, Nazila Fathi from Tehran and Craig Smith from Gaza.
 
This is pathetic. Israel needs to formally declare war on the PA entity, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran and wipe the fuckers off the map.
 
Ugh...this whole thing is just crazy. That's all I can even think to say about it at the moment.

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Deni said:
Ugh...this whole thing is just crazy. That's all I can even think to say about it at the moment.

:/

How is it crazy? It makes perfect sense. Hezbollah has been trying to destroy Israel for 24 years. And being a puppet of Iran and Syria, it was only a matter of time before they pulled something like this. The only thing surprising is that Olmert hasn't totally pussied out, and has at least fought back somewhat.
 
gprime said:
This is pathetic. Israel needs to formally declare war on the PA entity, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran and wipe the fuckers off the map.

That would certainly solve a lot of problems for the US. No more Iran, Syria, and Lebanon=no more "Death to America" threats, and sneaky nuclear weapons developments.

This could very well be an extremely bloody time for them all over there. But they had better not blame America, or ask for our help (nor should we offer any) since this is what THEY wanted so badly, and what THEY started. Let THEM finish it. Wouldn't want to see one drop of American blood wasted because of their inability to get along even after at least 2,000 years.
 
A Karas said:
That would certainly solve a lot of problems for the US. No more Iran, Syria, and Lebanon=no more "Death to America" threats, and sneaky nuclear weapons developments.

This could very well be an extremely bloody time for them all over there. But they had better not blame America, or ask for our help (nor should we offer any) since this is what THEY wanted so badly, and what THEY started. Let THEM finish it. Wouldn't want to see one drop of American blood wasted because of their inability to get along even after at least 2,000 years.


A few points:

1) The US would still have to be involved on some level, even if it is just arming Israel. They are well equipped already, but Iran is one of the world's most powerful non-nuclear nation. So fighting it, along with four other nations will require some extra weaponry at the very least.
2) The US is an ally, and thus has an obligation to become involved if Syria and Iran do. But more to the point, it is in the US's best interest to become involved, since they too want both nations obliterated.
3) 2,000 years? Islam isn't even 700 years old. And the tension mostly started in 1948, so that's all of 58 years, not 2,000. Besides, if the US weren't so keen on restraining Israel, we could have fixed this decades ago.
 
We wouldn't be here at all if we had a president who didn't abandon the peace process. Clinton had them ready to deal, and Bush destroyed all that, like everything else he touches.
 
Hambil wrote:

We wouldn't be here at all if we had a president who didn't abandon the peace process. Clinton had them ready to deal, and Bush destroyed all that, like everything else he touches.

Clinton actually failed to secure a peace agreement, pushing Israel into massive land concessions ("Land for Peace"). This was solely for the Clinton Legacy, his massive ego, and to hell with the people who actually had to live there. The Israeli Prime Minister agreed to the provisions, and Yassir Arafat foolishly rejected it, figuring he could get more after this massive concession. Then they started the Intifadah, Ariel Sharon was elected as a direct result, and the Palestinians have netted nothing from their rejection of the peace plan other than the death, poverty, and misery of their own people.

They chose war over peace, let them reap all the consequences that entails.

-Ogami
 
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gprime said:
This is pathetic. Israel needs to formally declare war on the PA entity, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran and wipe the fuckers off the map.

Quite so. But no backing from us, we've given them plenty already and our troops are deployed in Iraq settling an Israeli grudge already. Can't spare the bodies, the weapons or the funds, sorry boychiks. You start yourselves a little war over a few captured soldiers (when you're holding how many prisoners, yourselves?) Bon chance!
 
I want to see a huge war and the USA have nothing to do with it.

Let all the bastards fight it out once and for all.
 
Hambil said:
We wouldn't be here at all if we had a president who didn't abandon the peace process. Clinton had them ready to deal, and Bush destroyed all that, like everything else he touches.

Exactly.
 
bad dog said:
I want to see a huge war and the USA have nothing to do with it.

Let all the bastards fight it out once and for all.

Exactly. It's like some overgrown inner-city gang rivalry, and Americans are sick and fucking tired of being the spectators to the drive-by, much less paying to sponsor it and losing their own to the casualty list.
 
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