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Starfleet Academy - It's Happening

I didn't like the b storyline. I couldn't tell if they were pranking the war college guy or not. By the end, I guess they weren't, but we never got to see the eels!

I know most find Sam annoying, but I still think she's kind of adorable, because she is learning how to exist. Her makers are jerks, and I hope she is free from them interrupting her life all the time. I very much enjoyed seeing grown up Jake, and the recording of the Sisko at the end made me cry a little bit. It is very cool that Dax is still around. I thought I saw a bit of Jadzia in some mannerisms.

The bar stuff was silly. Sam making herself drunk was funny, though.
 
Not reading anything in here because I haven't watched the episode yet but I was spoiled that Cirroc is in the episode by... Cirroc on Facebook so I have high hopes for this one.
 
Not a huge fan of SAM. Didn't like the start all that much, but overall it was a good episode as it went on.

The Doctor was kind of annoying at times.

The bar scene was fun, but the whole plot w/ Starfleet Academy vs The War College is silly.
 
I picked a random episode of TNG this afternoon. "Unification Part I."

I've seen it a billion times. I can quote lines from it.

I couldn't take my eyes off of it. The deterioration of Sarek was depressing and I could imagine myself having to see something like that with someone I respected.

And it was 100x better than anything coming out today in the Trek Universe. Even SNW.
 
All the subplots were dumb and clumsily handled. All of a sudden the War Chancellor is a loveable bumbling galoot? No. And these cadets are young adults being written like children. By people who somehow think this show should be at a children's show level. So all the non-Sam stuff was a waste of time.

The Sam/DS9 stuff? Let's just say I'm glad they did such a deep nod toward DS9, but... was it deep after all? I almost wish that the future's understanding of that period was handled like how those future aliens thought of Voyager in "Living Witness" -- and then maybe Ilya Dax comes along to correct things with her magic bag of artifacts. But this was presented as a clear-eyed understanding of the past with amazing detail -- but it felt hollow. Especially since it had to compete with all the dumb subplots for airtime.

But it was a good decision to make it through Sam's experience with the Emissary connection, and the actor playing Sam is really, really good. And some good ideas were brought up and some really nice things said about Sisko, so okay. But it was a clumsy, bumpy ride getting there.
 
Where to begin? What an impactful and emotional tribute. There was Jake and Dax, mention of Benjamin, The Prophets, the Fire Caves, punching Q ... Gumbo, tomatoes, The Dominion. Phew! It's a pity they didn't mention peppers 'cause he grew peppers, 'member? I'm surprised Dax didn't bring up how Kassidy burnt them, remember? But that aside, I remember these things from the television series I liked - Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. And they mentioned and *showed* them here! Just amazing - funny feels in my tummy. Just just just wow!

For a more detailed overview of this beautiful and thoughtful tribute to my favorite Trek series:
 
Sorry this is long-winded again. I have lots of thoughts.

Season 1 - Episode 5- Series Acclimation Mil

Sooo… I liked quite a few things but it felt packaged in a way that just grated at me. It’s both emotionally sincere in parts and structurally irritating.

I did not enjoy the whole opening exposition sequence complete with screen prompts. It was annoying, felt like a corporate commercial trying to be hip with the kids, and was bordering on fourth wall breaking. Not for me.

Obviously the episode is a giant love letter to DS9 and Sisko in particular, and that is appreciated, and it’s a cool thing to introduce to younger audiences that might be watching this and have never seen DS9 before (does that audience exist? :unsure:). So over-explaining some of that stuff was fine, although it was also juggling extreme member berries territory, which made it a bit jarring in places.

SAM needed an episode and I thought she was kind of great in this. She is probably the character I worried about the most from the first few episodes, but the actress gave a heartfelt and very strong performance and I vibed with the character overall. So I have no complaints with this being a SAM-centric episode, and like Jay-Den last week it does a lot of work making the character someone we can root for going forward. The whole reporting-to-HQ thing felt a bit like Mork calling Orson to me and was artificially made more antagonistic than it needed to be (look! some stakes!), but it served its purpose.

View attachment Mork Calling Orson, Come In Orson - Young Robin Williams-qnp_Yux34Pg.mp4

Seeing Jake was of course fantastic. I was geeking out FOR Cirroc. It was great to see him back on Star Trek and giving a tribute not only to Sisko but really to Avery Brooks as well. It meant more because you know he holds the man in such high esteem in real life.

So yeah, I generally thought the DS9 stuff was handled well, but the teeny-bop energy of this show, which doesn’t even feel that genuine and more “fellow kids”, is draining me. I can do without jokes about boners in Star Trek, (I'm old, Gandalf) especially in an episode that is clearly aiming for something more mythic and emotional.

I still don’t really know what this show wants to be. It’s obviously very Trek-aware and eager to lean into legacy, but it’s all filtered through a 90210-style teen show vibe that doesn’t really lend itself to Star Trek at all.

For what it’s worth, I think it’s perfectly fine to cater to a younger demo and explore younger people’s experiences in Star Trek, but the way this show does it feels very contemporary and paint-by-numbers. It shuttles between barely tolerable and outright cringe-inducing far too often.

With that said, this episode would have been much stronger if the entire drunk-at-the-nightclub scene was left on the cutting room floor. The Kelrec dinner party stuff was mostly fluff, but inoffensive fluff. The bar stuff was just lame.

Another thing that still bothers me is the time period. It continues to feel completely arbitrary. We’re told it’s 800 years since the events of DS9. Fine. But does it actually feel like that? Would anything feel different if it was 400 years? Or 200?

It doesn’t feel like they’re talking about a period that would be the equivalent of the 13th century for us. Honestly, it still feels like Discovery just ass-pulled this date for its own shenanigans, and now it’s going to be weird forever whenever the show has to reference time periods we’re all actually familiar with.

I DID like a small exchange with SAM and the Doctor where he talks about loss though. Seeing as he is 800 years old himself now, hopefully we can meaningfully explore that part of his character, as he would have repeatedly seen his friends and colleagues die of old age. That scene felt like a nod to that, so hopefully we get more of that insight because, you know, it actually USES the extreme time jump.

The Dax reveal was cool, and the Sisko voice-over at the end actually got me. I’m growing sentimental in my old age...
 
I think one of the problems with the show trying to appeal to younger people is that all the old Trek series appealed to younger people without trying to appeal to younger people. These new ones are all try hard, and I think it is not necessary to try so hard. It assumes young people are too dumb to appreciate a good show. I remember watching some TOS episodes with my mom when I was about 5yrs old. I was fascinated by it. It was absolutely not made to appeal to a 5yr old!
 
Indeed. I was watching TNG at 7 years old and completely enthralled by it and TOS by 10 and likewise. This feels like its made by a committee of older people that are guessing what appeals to younger people when they could just be leaning into why Star Trek worked in the first place.
 
I think this is about where I'm at. It's not a bad show, really, but the disjointed try hard to be hip or whatever the kids say these days is glaringly obvious and distracting. It really takes me out of whatever it is they're trying to say, but I'll keep watching for the rest of the season. Ain't exactly on my priority list but there are certain elements I do enjoy with the whole thing so far.
 
Should starfleet know about Benny Russell's typewriter?
 
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