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Strange New Worlds season 3

Yeah, I was surprised by that on both counts. I mean it makes sense, considering how medicine is progressing now, and what we know about dermal regenerators, replicators, transporters, etc. But it doesn’t fit well with canon. And this is a perfect example of why respecting canon is important. It sets boundaries. When he lost his eyes I immediately thought “well they can’t repair eyes in this time period because Geordi had a visor a hundred years later. This guys fucked!” only for them to go against that.

Otherwise, though, I really liked this episode. It felt like a proper TOS adventure, on a bigger budget. A strange new world, if you will. And in agreement with Menty, that’s something that’s been missing. We just seem to go from one gimmick to another, and while I think they’re all pretty enjoyable episodes in their own right, I don’t think the show is quite living up to it’s promise of exploring the universe. It’s more like exploring pet genres.

Also, I wondered if the alien might be one of Redjack’s species.
 
The writer here is trying to connect the Vezda to the mysterious invading slugs of S1 TNG. Personally, I think it's a stretch.

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Oof. I can see the Event Horizon influence now you mention it. I have the film on VHS and probably haven't seen it in 20+ years at this point but what's the bet that it apes it more than what's comfortable on a rewatch. :unsure:

Annnnd looking at the article, yeah, they ripped the whole thing. *sigh*
 
whisky said:
Looks like during the writers strike they watched a bunch of Blu-ray's, then took them to the writers room and just did a find and replace on character names
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Yeah, well... it's not like this hasn't happened before. Star Trek has ripped off other works before over the years. "The Cage" was a rip off of "Forbidden Planet" and "Balance of Terror" was basically "The Enemy Below." SNW was just a little more obvious with this one, and I knew it looked familiar for some reason while I watched it.
 
That’s definitely fair, but I think the line between “inspired by” and “ripped from” gets crossed when you move from borrowing a tone or structure to straight-up recreating specific moments. Balance of Terror and later Wrath of Khan clearly drew on The Enemy Below and other submarine films, but they still feel like their own thing. There’s also the heavy Moby Dick influence (to the point where Khan quotes it) but it works because it has in-universe consistency. Khan, as a character, knows the book and relates it to himself, just like Picard does in First Contact.

Star Trek has not been shy about taking big bites from other famous works so it's only right to mention that when criticising SNW for it, but why does it feel so much hokier in SNW to me? I think it’s because when you start directly quoting other properties (often very anachronistically) or restaging shots almost frame-for-frame, it stops feeling like homage and starts feeling like someone else’s homework with the names changed. In SNW, the inspirations don’t always serve the Trek universe or the characters; it’s more like the Trek setting and characters are being wedged into pre-existing roles just to make the reference work.

Does that make sense?
 
Mentalist said:
That’s definitely fair, but I think the line between “inspired by” and “ripped from” gets crossed when you move from borrowing a tone or structure to straight-up recreating specific moments. Balance of Terror and later Wrath of Khan clearly drew on The Enemy Below and other submarine films, but they still feel like their own thing. There’s also the heavy Moby Dick influence (to the point where Khan quotes it) but it works because it has in-universe consistency. Khan, as a character, knows the book and relates it to himself, just like Picard does in First Contact.

Star Trek has not been shy about taking big bites from other famous works so it's only right to mention that when criticising SNW for it, but why does it feel so much hokier in SNW to me? I think it’s because when you start directly quoting other properties (often very anachronistically) or restaging shots almost frame-for-frame, it stops feeling like homage and starts feeling like someone else’s homework with the names changed. In SNW, the inspirations don’t always serve the Trek universe or the characters; it’s more like the Trek setting and characters are being wedged into pre-existing roles just to make the reference work.

Does that make sense?
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Sure, and like I said they were just blatantly obvious about it. This could lead you to the conclusion that the only real reason this episode clicks so well is because it's a photocopy of the movie. That's not good.
 
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