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Hambil said:
Or teachers (lefties), or the news (lefties), or books (lefties).

Maybe, then, it's time to eliminate that parenthetical, and reorient ourselves to the practical.

Oh, wait -- maybe you were being sarcastic, in which case you're still a fucking idiot for equating screenwriters with professional educators.
 
WordInterrupted said:
The increasing importance of celebirty in politics is certainly not positive. However, I don't think the kind of thing you're discussing in this thread--actors making comicaly righteous speeches in interviews and at awards ceremonies--is the most dangerous aspect of celebity. Far more dangerous is when politicians rely on their fame to win elections. George Bush would never have been president of the U.S. if he hadn't had a famous father. Hillary Clinton would never have become a Senator if she hadn't been married to one of the most famous men in the world. Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Jesse "The Body" Ventura all rode their fame to victory, and all were incompetent lightweights. A proven ability to govern is much more important than having a famous name or having appeared in a few bad movies.

That said, I did like Clooney's Good Night, and Good Luck. I've never heard him hold forth on politics, and I don't really want to, but I think it's great that he's taking on political issues in his movies. With all the stupid fluff films that come out every month, I admire people who try to make movies about issues that are really important to us. Storytelling--in the form novels, movies, and plays--is one of the most useful ways to work through political issues.

Except, I'm not going to pay $9.00 plus popcorn and a drink to watch a movie about something I can watch on CNN at home for free. Fluff RULEZZZZZ!
 
Simple formula for art and politics, courtesy of a writer named Roy Edroso: "the former must be the master of the latter, otherwise bullshit ensues."
 
I've read some pretty mediocre reviews. The chief complaint is that there are no fully-realized characters in the film. Everyone exists to fill a convenient
"quota" (CIA Agent, Arab Sheik, Energy Consultant, Evil Big Oil Exec), and to make Grandiose and Highly Important Speeches. With all the speechifying going on, apparently there no room for any story.
 
Come on, how important are actors really on politics??

It's not like we'd ever have an actor as president or governor of an important state or anything.
 
Number_6 said:
Except that Leni Riefenstahl was, sadly, an excellent filmmaker.

Well that was sort of my point. I was giving a high compliment as an example. I mean, I'd be positively frightened if anyone gave TQ for example enough money to create and distribute some revisionist dribble as fact using "subjective reasoning" to wear the viewer down, point by point, and presenting it as truth.

I can't imagine society being so gullible, but then it's 2005 and not 1938.
 
DarthSikle said:
Come on, how important are actors really on politics??

It's not like we'd ever have an actor as president or governor of an important state or anything.

Definitely not an important one. ;)
 
jack said:
Well that was sort of my point. I was giving a high compliment as an example. I mean, I'd be positively frightened if anyone gave TQ for example enough money to create and distribute some revisionist dribble as fact using "subjective reasoning" to wear the viewer down, point by point, and presenting it as truth.

I can't imagine society being so gullible, but then it's 2005 and not 1938.

Actually, even if what I've said were "drivel," I could do a damn good job making a film of it. Picture it... "Lord Of Smoke And Mirrors: The Ilya Ehrenburg Story". Have your people call my people! We'll do lunch! Love ya, bubeh!
:bigass:
 
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