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The Daily Show

Mentalist

Mentalist

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Is on CNN right now, it's on a few times a week and is the Americans "attempt" at political satire and sarcasm.


Seriously, give it up, americans CANNOT do political satire, it is just not possible. It never works, the show is not even remotley funny and is nothing but a rip off of FUNNY political satire shows like Have I Got News For You in the UK.

It's admirable that you try, really. But I think you would have your time better spent funding more Tom Cruise movies.


Worst. Satire. Ever.
 
Do you see what passes for real American news these days? People watch TDS to laugh, but also to get a little closer to the truth. It's that far removed from the mainstream.
 
It's just not close to funny. Not even close. The host is just a smarmy jackass that thinks he is being funny when he is just being an annoying smarmy ass. You can see how they have attempted to deconstruct UK shows like HIGNFY and formulate a success out of it. They are clearly going for a Angus Deyton type of guy with the host but it doesn't pull off, mainly because Angus Deyton is dry and satirical to the very core of his body, and actually funny.

Most of the humor is purile as well. When you are doing political satire you are not looking for purile, you are looking for biting, sharp, dry wit.

I swear I have watched this show tons of times now and it just totally is not funny, EVER. not once I have laughed. Someone get Ian Hislop on the air!
 
Huh, what the fuck are you two talking about? Jon Stewart? Holy fucking shit, he's an ignoramous that happened to be in the right place at the right time.

As far as CNN/Barbie Doll Land, fuck that...I watch BBC national hour whatever its called, otherwise I just don't bother.

Because you know it's all fucking lies.
 
To add Eggs, I find it odd because your dry wit for instance seems to be perfectly in tact. Where do they hide you lot? You should really be on Television if this is the standard they are finding.
 
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Huh, what the fuck are you two talking about? Jon Stewart? Holy fucking shit, he's an ignoramous that happened to be in the right place at the right time.

As far as CNN/Barbie Doll Land, fuck that...I watch BBC national hour whatever its called, otherwise I just don't bother.

Because you know it's all fucking lies.
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Is that his name? His show isn't funny and neither is he.
 
Well, Jon Stewart is better than Craig Kilborn, the Dennis Miller wannabe who previously hosted The Daily Show.

My biggest problem with Stewart is his ass-kissing of the Dems (particularly a hypocritical millonnaire bitch like Nancy Pelosi). If you're going to do satire, use a double-edged sword. If not, have the grace to admit that you're a partisan hack.
 
You're drawing a line to your British show that probably doesn't exist. American news & political satire goes back as far as America does, and the Daily Show genre of humor goes back to Weekend Update from SNL, and the National Lampoon, which also gave birth to much of the original Saturday Night Live.

It must be a cultural thing, but as I said, the state of political satire seems to reflect the state of politics. A majority of people seem to want to be blind these days, so people like Jon Stewart don't have to try to hard to make fun of the situation.

And I find it quite funny, it's lowbrow satire. Things get more interesting during the interviews with real politicians.
 
First rule of satire is to be funny. The second rule is certainly not to have your own political agenda since that just doesn't work, they all suck or you suck.

I mean we have Have I Got News for You which has been on air for 15 years in the UK whcih is just pure and total class, some of the most educated political satirists and comedians frequent that show. TDS is nothing but a rip-off and is frankly just totally poor. Really unfunny stuff.
 
Number_6 said:
Well, Jon Stewart is better than Craig Kilborn, the Dennis Miller wannabe who previously hosted The Daily Show.

My biggest problem with Stewart is his ass-kissing of the Dems (particularly a hypocritical millonnaire bitch like Nancy Pelosi). If you're going to do satire, use a double-edged sword. If not, have the grace to admit that you're a partisan hack.
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That was beneath you, he does skewer each side effectively. He makes no secret of his leanings, but he is just as confuzzled by the leaders of his own party as the other. The trouble is, the Bushies are so goddam easy to skewer as time goes by, and they feel the weight of it. If they weren't so ridiculous, it wouldn't be taking up so much airtime.
 
You're drawing a line to your British show that probably doesn't exist. American news & political satire goes back as far as America does, and the Daily Show genre of humor goes back to Weekend Update from SNL, and the National Lampoon, which also gave birth to much of the original Saturday Night Live.

It must be a cultural thing, but as I said, the state of political satire seems to reflect the state of politics. A majority of people seem to want to be blind these days, so people like Jon Stewart don't have to try to hard to make fun of the situation.

And I find it quite funny, it's lowbrow satire. Things get more interesting during the interviews with real politicians.
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You just hit the preverbial nail on the head. "Low brow satire" I never knew those things worked together. and the influence in the Daily Show of HIGNFY is quite plain to see. they are looking for the same "type" of host but it just doesn't work.
 
It was a completely different show with Craig Kilborn hosting and Liz Winstead producing. And when it was easier to get nutcases for interviews because they hadn't heard of The Daily Show and thought it was legit. It was much more a parody of local news back then.
 
Mentalist said:
First rule of satire is to be funny. The second rule is certainly not to have your own political agenda since that just doesn't work, they all suck or you suck.

I mean we have Have I Got News for You which has been on air for 15 years in the UK whcih is just pure and total class, some of the most educated political satirists and comedians frequent that show.
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Well, enjoy it. I'm not some rabid Daily Show defender, but since we don't have a whole lot to compare it to at the moment, I'll take it. And I doubt we'll be seeing your holy show on these shores anytime soon, as much of the localized satire would be completely lost on us.
 
I just didn't think it was funny. Whatsoever. Which is a waste since their is so much material to make fun of.
 
Have I Got News For You

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Ian Hislop, Angus Deayton, and Paul Merton




[SIZE=+1]Have I Got News for You is an hysterically popular satirical British show. Shown weekly on BBC2 its irreverent view of current affairs often brings it into controversy, as evidenced by this rib tickling excerpt from one of their shows, on McDonald's and McLibel.
Angus Deayton, intensely sarcastic anchor: Host
Paul Merton, funny bloke: Panel member
Ian Hislop, as the editor of Private Eye has been sued for libel more times than there are McDonald's Restaurants: Panel member

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Angus
And now time for our odd one out round - rearing its 4 ugly heads from which one is to be chosen as the outstanding beauty. Paul your 4 visions of loveliness are: the back legs of a mouse; the E Coli 157 bacteria; the nematode worm; and some raw sewage.
Paul
Are the back legs of a mouse the only thing that hasn't been offered a job on Channel 5?
I think this is McDonald's. Is this the things that have been found in kitchens? Have McDonald's invented a new cheese-burger that's got the back legs of a mouse? You order it and it comes walking towards you - in a few years time it will have a little voice box so it can speak to you as you're eating it - "been drinking coffee have we sir?"
Ian
McDonald's are notoriously litigious.
Paul
I know! I have posed this as a question rather than a statement. I mean, its things found isn't it?
Angus
Yes, I have to own up. you're absolutely right. As we see them again, they have all allegedly been found in McDonald's food. Except...
Paul
Oh, yes of course, uhm. Is there a beefburger there? There isn't is there! It must be that...I'd remember that one on the bottom left (nematode worm) - it's nibbling the lettuce. Uhm. The back legs of a mouse.
Angus
Ian, do you want to have a try?
Ian
It must be the Jeffrey Archer (raw sewage).
Angus
The raw sewage. Yes. It's the right answer, so you'll have to share the points. That's the only one that hasn't found in McDonald's food. Despite this week's courtroom allegations that raw sewage flooded the kitchen of their Colchester branch. McDonald's staff eventually cleaned the sewage up without food being contaminated; although it would have been a brave man who tried the chocolate milkshake that afternoon.
The E Coli bacteria in a McDonald's restaurant was said by the Department of Health to be responsible for a major outbreak of food poisoning in Preston. McDonald's took immediate action by renaming it the "E. coli McBacteria".
In 1989 McDonald's apologised to a customer who found a nematode worm in his Filet-O-Fish, although they insisted that the worm was perfectly harmless because it was dead. Presumably because it had eaten some E Coli bacteria. In 1992, Eric Schneider took a big bite out of the "McRib" he'd just bought and discovered he was eating the rear end of a mouse. There's a difference at McDonald's you won't enjoy.
 
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Anyone who can sit through one of the numerous appearances of Eddie Izzard basically doing a double act with Paul Merton and not bust a rib is most likley dead also.
 
Eggs Mayonnaise said:
That was beneath you, he does skewer each side effectively. He makes no secret of his leanings, but he is just as confuzzled by the leaders of his own party as the other. The trouble is, the Bushies are so goddam easy to skewer as time goes by, and they feel the weight of it. If they weren't so ridiculous, it wouldn't be taking up so much airtime.
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No, it wasn't. Stewart comes across as extremely partisan, as his ass-kissing of Kerry in the run up to the election more than indicates. His "interview" of Kerry was a series of softball questions and poorly-disguised adoration. Give me a break. Bush deserves being made fun of, but so does Kerry.

I will say that I'm proud of him for skewering the French during the riots, but also that I was surprised to see him taking potshots at them, given his behavior during Election 2004.

All told, I'd rather watch South Park, which knows where to strike on both sides.
 
It's a nice way to wind down the evening. Hell, other than the internet, that's where I get my news from.
 
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