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The Last of Us

CaptainWacky said:
I don't know, I thought this week's was a bit too much. Why would the cannibal paedo preacher decide to rape her while the building's on fire? Just a bit over the top. The acting is still really good but it's a bit silly?
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Put it down to the intensity of the moment, perhaps. Rape is first and foremost a power play. She put up a hell of a fight and as the man said, that was his favorite part. After rejecting and humiliating him, breaking a finger and then knifing him, he had her pinned as terror and rage gripped her. For a guy like that, what would be a bigger turn on? The fire would've only added to the ambience.

As for Ellie's OTT whack-a-pedo with the cleaver, they intentionally drew it out. You have more than David behind those blows - you have Riley, Tess, Sam & Henry, Joel (who at this point, she could have well thought was dead) fueling that rage. David was right about her: she has a violent heart, and it was on full display here. These darker character developments play a big role going forward.
 
I mean I would thinking choking on smoke would make what the guy was trying to do all the more impractical, even if he was turned on by fire.

Also, what happened to the rest of his cult? Did they not notice their main building on fire?
 
I can't defend the practicality of anything he was doing. He didn't intervene in the fire in the first place ... <shrug>

As for the cultists - ahhh... they were all laid out from starvation, I'm sure. Yeah.

I think all the men had been dispatched at that point? Maybe someone caught sight of it (or the smell) as Joel and Ellie made their escape. Hell, there might have been some relief on the cultists' part they were free of David's "care".
 
Ellie: Joel, what happened to all the women and children in the cult?

(Flashback shows Joel brutally murdering them all on his way to Ellie.)

Joe: Uhh...I don't know!
 
I liked the season overall, but I wasn't really blown away by it like some people seem to have been (or like people were by the game ten years ago.) The acting was great from the two leads and the scenes with them just talking and feeding giraffes and stuff were the best scenes.

There's definitely parts where I could see how it would feel different (and better) if it was a game. Like Joel's whole murder of the Fireflies in the finale. I get that the point is that he's killing people who probably aren't bad people and you're supposed to feel weird about it. And if I was actually controlling the character and shooting a guy who just put his gun down and a surgeon it would probably feel more disturbing. But as a tv scene, it just felt a bit rushed and easy? Like the season has shown that Joel is kind of old and beaten up and has any number of physical problems, but here he just effortlessly kills like twenty people. Maybe it would have worked better if any of the Fireflies other than Marlene had been given a personality, but the way it played out they just felt like, well, NPCs. And even Marlene was kind of cold about cutting out the brain of someone she'd known all their life.

I feel like episode three kind of gave a false impression of the rest of the show too? Because it was the only time they went away from the two lead characters and it was by far the longest episode and felt the most real or something?

Anyway I did like it I'll watch season two in two years and no doubt have to try to navigate people still angry at the game and not actually talking about the show or whatever (it's hard to avoid spoliers.)
 
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Interesting. From what I've read, people are split on the massacre scene Wacky. I was anxious going into this episode for what was to come. As someone who played the game, I thought it was incredible and completely unexpected. Instead of some standard action-packed spectacle, it was a cold, methodical & muted blood bath - punctuated by that haunting score.

I was very iffy about them adapting the game, but they exceeded all expectations. The main difference between the show and game for me is - I jumped straight into Part II after finishing the first one last year! As for that very loud group of Part II haters, they're hedging all their bets on the mainstream audience feeling the same way - it ain't gonna happen. I loved the first game, but the second ... I legit didn't touch another game for over a month after I'd finished - I was that wrecked. If they can translate & adapt Ppart II as successfully as they did Part I ... it's going to be a hell of a ride.

Glad you at least liked it.
 
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Honestly I found the scene where he popped the guy's kneecap off in episode 8 more disturbing than the hospital massacre. After that I wasn't really surprised that he'd kill a bunch of grunts and a doctor.

(Leaving those two nurses alive is going to come back and haunt him, right?)
 
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