Troll Kingdom
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
The Three Stooges
- Thread starter Eggs Mayonnaise
- Start date
Dirk Funk
Evil Penguin
You have to be kidding me. His remake of Halloween was dreadful. He took everything that was good about Halloween and stripped it out. Then he replaced it with shallow crap. He changed the entire motivation for Michael Myers, he took out all the mystery and creepiness. Instead it became simply a movie about an abused kid who went berserk and started killing everyone. In short, he sodomized it.
Donovan
beer, I want beer
Mostly I'd agree with you about Rob Zombie, like I said I fall on the hate side more than not, but I liked what he did in the first Halloween for the most part, because a human but irreparably damaged Michael Myers was more frightening to me than the unkillable boogeyman of the original. That Michael Myers was more stupid than scary, this one was frighteningly psychotic. Your mileage may vary of course.
Donovan
beer, I want beer
Carpenter was a good filmmaker and director but a terrible storyteller. He committed one of the greatest sins in horror movie history: he introduced the concept that no one should care about the victims. Yeah Jamie lee Curtis and Michael Myers are memorable. So are Kurt Russell and the Thing. But without cheating can you name anyone else in those movies? No. Because they were nameless victims no one gave a shit about. Conversely if I said name the people in the Shining or Alien or the Exorcist or Jaws, there are handfuls of memorable characters in each film.
A horror movie only works if you care sbout the people in danger. That's basic storytelling and Carpenter deliberately skips that.
Fuck John Carpenter lol.
A horror movie only works if you care sbout the people in danger. That's basic storytelling and Carpenter deliberately skips that.
Fuck John Carpenter lol.
Donovan
beer, I want beer
Which is why Zombie's version is more honest in focusing on Myers' character development because he's saying "we all know who the star is. Let's not even pretend." Rob Zombie's film is the natural progression of monster as protagonist.
jack
The Legendary Troll King
Comparing these two films is silly, because they don't even share a common bond. Halloween 2007 did NOTHING to enhance the genre, other than fulfill Universals contract to Zombie, clearly.
The first Halloween broke ground on many levels. btw he wrote it with Debra Hill, but she was responsible for the sequencing in the storytelling primarily. Visually and cinematically this is one of Carpenter's most compelling films. JLC was an unknown prior to this film also.
Zombie's Halloween was a very cheap imitation of the original, just like everything else he's ever done but Ho1KC, which turns out to be a fluke based on the returning cheesiness of the sequel.
The first Halloween broke ground on many levels. btw he wrote it with Debra Hill, but she was responsible for the sequencing in the storytelling primarily. Visually and cinematically this is one of Carpenter's most compelling films. JLC was an unknown prior to this film also.
Zombie's Halloween was a very cheap imitation of the original, just like everything else he's ever done but Ho1KC, which turns out to be a fluke based on the returning cheesiness of the sequel.