Well, I just got served......

[Starship Coyote]

Dear, dear, CoyoteUgly,
Here I had an improved image of you - putting your girls through private school so they'd have a better education and a better future, paying off your mortgage, etc. Put the Depends back on the shelf and use the outhouse!

Checking...introspecting...self-examining...

Nope. Couldn't care less. Thanks for playing.

 

[eloisel]

I know of some crazy lawsuits.

A black guy named Buck found a special edition of a porno magazine titled "Buck." At least one of the women appearing nude in the magazine was black. This man wanted to sue the magazine for defaming his name and for acts of racism against him. At the time I worked for high priced private attorneys who would not take the case. Buck found a lawyer to take his case though. The magazine settled with him out of court to avoid litigating the matter even though Buck would have, in my opinion, lost.

I know of another case where an employee of a local televangelist wanted to sue the parents for allowing their 16 year old girl to go out in public scantily clad and enticing him into impure thoughts. He also found a lawyer. The parents had no money but the lawyer made a lot of money off the televangelist's employee who wanted to bring the suit.

She can also act pro se and have to pay only filing fees. She might be able to file it in a civil court but the service fees would be pretty steep as the parties are international. It would be easy enough to have the case thrown out of any civil court by filing a Plea to the Jurisdiction. Still, costs time and money to the person having to defend themselves against such a suit.

Hopefully she is just spewing. However, if it were me, I'd be preparing for a defense then go on the offense.

 

[eloisel]

Checking...introspecting...self-examining...

Nope. Couldn't care less. Thanks for playing.

Ha! Checking ... introspecting ... self-examing ...
and Depends.

Thanks for playing.

 

[BlazerBoy]

Okay. I just read on EI a post from her in which she is making rather harsh accusations against members of this board and names several members specifically. I would suggest those members take note as they may have grounds for an international libel law suit. Of course, pursuing it depends on whether Ms. Bacardi has anything with which to satisify a judgment against her.

Its a case of mistaken identity, in her case. She thinks members here are certain people she's had dealings with IRL. I also hate to be mean, but I don't entirely believe that her mental status is such that she could genuinely legitimately defend herself or even stand trial. That being the case, its really a sad situation, best kept to the confines of these few boards, and not appearing before any court of law.

 

[Captain Jack]

So, what IS real about what Jillian has said (if any) and what is made up? Does anyone know that would like to share? She's posted a few times in EI (sadly, we don't have a daycare there, but she may change that if she gets any loonier), and has made it look like the feds are after her, and it costed her thousands of dollars and many years of misery in her life. Those are her words, not mine. What's up with her?

 

[BlazerBoy]

I'm generally good at getting a feel for people, and at one point on this board, and 3 times off this board, I talked with the "real" Jillian. I think there was indeed some sort of trial surrounding events between her and Eric IRL, and from another source I learned she does indeed have a legitimate restraining order against him, which technicaly means he and her can't inhabit this board at the same time, not sure how that works out on a BBS legally. The problem was, if and when Eric was here, she acused any and everyone of being his dual, and appeared to taunt and threaten us at large for harboring him. Also, I think I know 95% of the posters here well enough to say they aren't Eric or whoever else she claims they are, but I could be wrong. Its not really that big of a concern for me. I only took an honest exception to her actions when she crossed the line by posting missmanners personal info.

 

[eloisel]

Well, from what little I've heard about her here and from what I've seen this evening on EI, I think she is one person I will just step away from for the time being. Causing trouble for a poster on a message board is one thing. Causing trouble for a person in real life is something else entirely.

 

[The Question]

Its a case of mistaken identity, in her case. She thinks members here are certain people she's had dealings with IRL. I also hate to be mean, but I don't entirely believe that her mental status is such that she could genuinely legitimately defend herself or even stand trial. That being the case, its really a sad situation, best kept to the confines of these few boards, and not appearing before any court of law.

Two possibilities:

1. She genuinely is non compos mentis plain and simple, which means that she wouldn't be permitted (afaik) to pursue the case without counsel.

2. She is absolutely the best, the most clever and the most absolutely tireless troll in the history of the internet. In which case, this whole year-and-a-half-long Jillian trip has been nothing but an act and never will be anything but an act. In which case, further, it doesn't bloody well matter.

 

[Captain Jack]

I'm with you, eloisel. If you've read what she wrote over in EI, most of the posts were directed to me. Creeeeeeeeepy...

 

[Starburn]

Two possibilities:

1. She genuinely is non compos mentis plain and simple, which means that she wouldn't be permitted (afaik) to pursue the case without counsel.

2. She is absolutely the best, the most clever and the most absolutely tireless troll in the history of the internet. In which case, this whole year-and-a-half-long Jillian trip has been nothing but an act and never will be anything but an act. In which case, further, it doesn't bloody well matter.

Would be funny if it's Skin. :lop:

 

[VKD]

you guys are clueless

 

[Dark Link]

Not really, it's more a fact of we dont care about some looney bitch who screams "Lawsuit" even 10 seconds.

She had no proof, she had nothing but her wild accusations and she was mainly at fault for anything that DID happen because she was the one who continually went with it.

 

[Starship Coyote]

Two possibilities:

1. She genuinely is non compos mentis plain and simple, which means that she wouldn't be permitted (afaik) to pursue the case without counsel.

2. She is absolutely the best, the most clever and the most absolutely tireless troll in the history of the internet. In which case, this whole year-and-a-half-long Jillian trip has been nothing but an act and never will be anything but an act. In which case, further, it doesn't bloody well matter.

I seriously want it to be option 2...that would be funny as hell. However, I have it on good authority...and from many email conversations with JB herself...that it's definitely option 1.

 

[Dual]

Give it up, dude. Nobody can out-Jillian Jillian. Find another way to make a name for yourself, dual.

What? No. Fuck you. I'm a better Jillian than Skin himself.

 

[eloisel]

Two possibilities:

1. She genuinely is non compos mentis plain and simple, which means that she wouldn't be permitted (afaik) to pursue the case without counsel.

2. She is absolutely the best, the most clever and the most absolutely tireless troll in the history of the internet. In which case, this whole year-and-a-half-long Jillian trip has been nothing but an act and never will be anything but an act. In which case, further, it doesn't bloody well matter.

Her mental state would be an issue if she were attempting to defend herself against a criminal charge. However, what she has proposed is pursuing a torts based civil suit. While the wrongs she claims were committed against her may also be criminal, that alleged criminal activity was committed by someone other than her and would be issues handled outside of the civil suit.

I don't know anything about the situation as it happened and it may very well be she is insane. However, she was capable of interfering in the real world lives of people outside the confines of this message board. That she has made a threatening appearance on another board she knows TK members frequent tells me she has not let this issue drop - that she is driven.

The major concern is how deep her pockets are enabling her to pursue the civil suit - even if she acts pro se the discovery process alone can be extremely expensive: depositions, the message board's hosting company having to compile information. What concerns me is she gain sponsorship by one of the lunatic groups out there that want to police the internet, especially if any poster of which she complains is employed by any goverment office. If such event were to take place, I would recommend any Americans affected contact the ACLU which is quite active and experienced in opposing identifying anonymous internet posters as defendants. If the poster used an internet connection at work to access the message board and engaged in arguments with her during that time, they might also want to review their employer's internet usage policies and perhaps have a talk with that government office's attorneys.

In other words, I wouldn't just pass her off as a nutter. I've seen too many judges be extremely lenient with pro ses while they muddle through the legal process and too many loonies get legal representation by special interest groups with agendas.

 

[jack]

It's a message board silly.

 

[jack]

Her real name is Jillian Bacardi? I can see it now "your honor Blazerboy is really Eric, and I can prove it!

Cyber Libel per se is when you for example forge the email of someone or create an email that suggests you are someone else, and then mail a prank to some people who might effect you in real life, representeing yourself as someone. More like identity theft than slander, but you get what you pay for.

Danny Hellman did that for example to Ted Rall, and has been defending himself from a 1.5 million dollar libel per se lawsuit in real life for five years now, simply because he would not apologize for sending the emails and paying the lawyer fees for the request to begin with.

So while it may be true you can sue someone for libel or slander, there isn't a post or thread that meets that test on this board as far as "Jillian" is concerned.

I've dealt with loonies like her on other boards. They masturbate to this shit.

 

[eloisel]

Yep, and nope.

Libel is the written form of defamation. The intent of defamation is to damage the reputation, character, or good name of someone by slander or libel.

From what I've seen, JB has alleged that a government employee (or employees) in their capacity as a public servant has caused her damages. Further she has alleged that members of this board conspired with and aided this government employee to do so.

While for most people, her claims aren't much to worry about. I am concerned for any posters that are government employees, at least American gov't employees.

I think JB is highly exposed to libel law suits being filed against her as:
1. A gov't employee could lose their job over the type of accusations she is making - therefore they would be the victim harmed by her statements.
2. If she is unable to prove her claims in a court of law, then the statements would be false.
3. And she has definitely made the statements to more than one person (other than the victim).

 

[eloisel]

I've dealt with loonies like her on other boards. They masturbate to this shit.

You're kinder than I am.