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Who was worse? Adolf Hitler or George S. Patton

Messenger said:
Bullshit, grasshopper.

"I defy you to balance that paltry $23 billion against the cost savings to consumers the cheap labor has provided."

Then you proceed to whine about intellectual honesty. Hypocrite, much?



The High Cost of Cheap Labor
Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget​

  • Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.
  • Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).
  • With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.
  • On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

And plenty of other stuff.



This is interesting...

http://www.rightwingnews.com/category.php?ent=5455

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What about other costs to society? On the whole, are illegals a net benefit or net liability to the American economy?

The answer to this question can vary wildly depending on what's included as an asset and what's not included as a liability. For example, liberal economist and popular New York Times columnist Paul Krugman says that overall, illegals are an insignificant, positive asset to the economy, although their presence harms poor Americans:



On the other hand, according to a conservative group, the Center for Immigration Studies:


Again, estimates vary on how much of an impact illegals have on the economy, but most of the credible ones show the benefits are insignificant or even in the negative range.

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Now you have your 'benefits.' I guess it was a huuuge leap by me to assume that billions in social services would dwarf saving $50 on cleaning your house.
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Why did it take so long for you to respond directly to my criticism? Why all the wiggling and wriggling?

This 'arguing' thing sure seems to have you befuddled.

:bigass:
 
El Rod d'Irico said:
Why did it take so long for you to respond directly to my criticism? Why all the wiggling and wriggling?

This 'arguing' thing sure seems to have you befuddled.

:bigass:
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Sorry if I don't get as tense as you about it. I'll try to be more prompt when I'm online in the future. Maybe.
 
Messenger said:
Sorry if I don't get as tense as you about it. I'll try to be more prompt when I'm online in the future. Maybe.
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Let me be more clear: you wasted many posts dancing around my direct challenge without responding to it. Why did you waste all those posts instead of just answering me?
 
El Rod d'Irico said:
Let me be more clear: you wasted many posts dancing around my direct challenge without responding to it. Why did you waste all those posts instead of just answering me?
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Because anyone who didn't want to waste time and space would provide their own counterpoint, instead of making themselves look like utter invalids?
 
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