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YOUR EITHER A FASCIST OR A NATIONAL SOCIALIST, LUCI

Lord Raffles

Lord Raffles

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SaintLucifer said:
The psychopath all addressed as Adolf Hitler created a State within which unemployment was a thing of the past. No other nation has done the same. I rest my case. Nazi fascism is the answer.
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Take your pick...​
 
Lord Raffles said:
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*groan* Here we go again. National Socialism IS fascism you dumb fuck. Can you not read? Look below:

Technically, the word NAZI was the acronym for the National Socialist German Worker's Party. It was a fascist movement that had its roots in the European nationalist and socialist movements, and that developed a grotesque biologically-determinant view of so-called "Aryan" supremacy. (Here we use "national socialism" to refer to the early Nazi movement before Hitler came to power, sometimes termed the "Brownshirt" phase, and the term "Nazi" to refer to the movement after it had consolidated around ideological fascism.)

The seeds of fascism, however, were planted in Italy. "Fascism is reaction," said Mussolini, but reaction to what? The reactionary movement following World War I was based on a rejection of the social theories that formed the basis of the 1789 French Revolution, and whose early formulations in this country had a major influence on our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

It was Rousseau who is best known for crystallizing these modern social theories in . The progeny of these theories are sometimes called Modernism or Modernity because they challenged social theories generally accepted since the days of Machiavelli. The response to the French Revolution and Rousseau, by Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, and others, poured into an intellectual stew which served up Marxism, socialism, national socialism, fascism, modern liberalism, modern conservatism, communism, and a variety of forms of capitalist participatory democracy.

Fascists particularly loathed the social theories of the French Revolution and its slogan: "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity."

The governments and parties most often considered to have been fascist include Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler, Spain's Falange, Portugal's Estado Novo, Hungary's Arrow Cross Party, Romania's Iron Guard, and other similar movements that existed across Europe in the 1920s and 1930s. Some authors reject this broader use of the term or exclude certain of these parties and regimes.

In both popular thought and academic scholarship, Nazism is generally considered a form of fascism - with "fascism" defined so as to include any of the authoritarian, nationalist, totalitarian movements that developed in Europe around the same time. The debate focuses mainly on comparisons of fascists movements in general with the Italian prototype, including the fascists in Germany. The idea mentioned above to reject all former ideas and ideologies like democracy, liberalism, and especially marxism make it difficult to track down a perfect definition of these two terms.

The term "National Socialism", derives from this citizen-nation relationship, whereby the term socialism is invoked and is meant to be realized through the common duty of the individuals to the German people; all actions are to be in service of the Reich. In practice, the Nazis argued, their goal was to bring forth a nation-state as the locus and embodiment of the people's collective will, bound by the Volksgemeinschaft as both an ideal and an operating instrument. In comparison, non-national socialist ideologies oppose the idea of nations, which they see as artificial divisions that support the status quo and oppression by the capital owners.
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Fascism is a set of ideologies and practices that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and/or historical terms, above all other sources of loyalty, and to create a mobilized national community. Fascist hostility to socialism and feminism, for they are seen as prioritizing class or gender rather than nation. This is why fascism is a movement of the extreme right. Fascism is also a movement of the radical right because the defeat of socialism and feminism and the creation of the mobilized nation are held to depend upon the advent to power of a new elite acting in the name of the people, headed by a charismatic leader, and embodied in a mass, militarized party. Fascists are pushed towards conservatism by common hatred of socialism and feminism, but are prepared to override conservative interests - family, property, religious, the universities, the civil service - where the interests of the nation are considered to require it. Fascist radicalism also derives from a desire to assuage discontent by accepting specific demands of the labour and women's movements, so long as these demands accord with the national priority. Fascists seek to ensure the harmonization of workers' and women's interests with those of the nation by mobilizing them within special sections of the party and/or within a corporate system. Access to these organizations and to the benefits they confer upon members depends on the individual's national, political, and/or racial characteristics. All aspects of fascist policy are suffused with ultranationalism.
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Fuck you are too easy. Next!
 
Lord Raffles said:
Fuck you are too easy. Next!
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No response. I knew you would be made to look stupid upon review of my previous posts regarding fascism. In future, learn to shut the fuck up about things you know nothing. FASCISM is my expertise, and it is my chosen political philosophy.
 
SaintLucifer said:

No response. I knew you would be made to look stupid upon review of my previous posts regarding fascism. In future, learn to shut the fuck up about things you know nothing. FASCISM is my expertise, and it is my chosen political philosophy.
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You didn't even provide any references... because there aren't any references, you wikipedia mediocrity.
 
Luci likes pictures of naked men. HA HA HA HA

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Luci keeps quoting that historical revision opinion article to "prove" naziism is "right wing."

He cannot accept the historical record using only source documents.
 
Cranky Bastard said:
Luci keeps quoting that historical revision opinion article to "prove" naziism is "right wing."

He cannot accept the historical record using only source documents.
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Most puzzling. You and other like dumbfucks continue to impress upon people that your entire education system has been 'revised' by the liberal socialists. You then go on to claim the reason many think the Nazis were fascist is because those same revisionists do not want to admit socialism not only failed under Nazism, but it failed miserably. It is the 'belief' of many that the socialists of your country, these revisionists wish to portray the Nazis as terrible fascists who had nothing to do with socialism, thus protecting their beloved ideology from ridicule. Now then, if your entire history has been 'revised' as you claim, then how did you determine the Nazis were socialist? Hasn't everything been 'revised' according to you? If the facts have been changed, then which 'facts' did you use to determine the Nazis were socialist? Those facts no longer exist remember. One cannot pull facts out of thin air... unless one is full of shit yes? You are making up facts as you go along?

You state that I quote others when pointing out that the Nazis were fascists. What exactly is it you think YOU are doing when you attempt to claim they were socialists? It is history remember? Therefore one must 'quote' others. History is one huge quoting of information which has been passed down. The very argument you attempt to use against me actually applies to you also silly little girl.
 
SUCH CONCERNS ARE FOR THE PASSING FLESH. FLESH WILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT NOT AS WE KNOW IT. NOT IN THIS FORM.

WHY WASTE TIME ON SUCH POINTLESSNESS?

PAUSE AND REACH FOR THE QUIESCENT NOW.
 
۞RACLE said:
SUCH CONCERNS ARE FOR THE PASSING FLESH. FLESH WILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT NOT AS WE KNOW IT. NOT IN THIS FORM.

WHY WASTE TIME ON SUCH POINTLESSNESS?

PAUSE AND REACH FOR THE QUIESCENT NOW.
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Yet here you are, wasting your time about us wasting our time.
 
۞RACLE said:
SUCH CONCERNS ARE FOR THE PASSING FLESH. FLESH WILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT NOT AS WE KNOW IT. NOT IN THIS FORM.

WHY WASTE TIME ON SUCH POINTLESSNESS?

PAUSE AND REACH FOR THE QUIESCENT NOW.
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Because relationships develop on forums.
 
SaintLucifer said:

Most puzzling. You and other like dumbfucks continue to impress upon people that your entire education system has been 'revised' by the liberal socialists. You then go on to claim the reason many think the Nazis were fascist is because those same revisionists do not want to admit socialism not only failed under Nazism, but it failed miserably. It is the 'belief' of many that the socialists of your country, these revisionists wish to portray the Nazis as terrible fascists who had nothing to do with socialism, thus protecting their beloved ideology from ridicule. Now then, if your entire history has been 'revised' as you claim, then how did you determine the Nazis were socialist? Hasn't everything been 'revised' according to you? If the facts have been changed, then which 'facts' did you use to determine the Nazis were socialist? Those facts no longer exist remember. One cannot pull facts out of thin air... unless one is full of shit yes? You are making up facts as you go along?

You state that I quote others when pointing out that the Nazis were fascists. What exactly is it you think YOU are doing when you attempt to claim they were socialists? It is history remember? Therefore one must 'quote' others. History is one huge quoting of information which has been passed down. The very argument you attempt to use against me actually applies to you also silly little girl.
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Been there done that, Luci. I quoted ALL of the major domestic political policies of the third reich, and ALL of them were socialist.

You responded with opinion from bloggers.

Case fucking closed, moron.
 
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