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JOHN KERRY IS A FUCKING PEICE OF SHIT

Messenger said:
It's not something people are generally familiar with. Racism is the PC term used, probably the one Ogami would most readily understand.
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I'm quite sure Ogami knows the difference.

This I agree with. But when it came to destabilizing Europe by helping Muslim terrorists in the Balkans, the USA was more than ready to go about it. Now we have Serbs being kicked out of the cradle of their culture, Kosovo, because Muslim Albanians are immigrating there, waging a war of terrorism, and claiming that they are being oppressed by the rightful owners of that part of the world.

But the USA supports this, the peacekeeping action, everything. The Serbs have been rendered impotent against this, but where is the outrage? They are fighting an actual war against Muslims, not sporadic terrorist attacks by Al-Qaeda.

It's this racialist, exterminationist policy of giving the benefit of the doubt to the accusors of anyone white that have helped Islam gain any sort of foothold in the international arena. They've been backward people by many standards since the firearm was invented. And now they're the Sword of Damocles.
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Clinton's Serbian war was a disgrace. 3,000 innocent Serbians were slaughtered during 88 days of bombing by us aircraft over-painted with NATO markings, while the International press posted nary a picture of the destruction and death. Why, do you think?
 
Sarek said:
As for the ID thing, I don't understand that either. I'd be for it. Granted, it may cause hardship for some for a period of time, but nothing insurmountable I would think.
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"May cause hardship"? How, exactly, would it "cause hardship"? You mean the retards and the street bums the democrats bus into the polls might be too stupid to have an ID on them when they go to sell their vote?

I always hear this ridiculous excuse that asking a voter to show ID is somehow a problem - or even "racist"?

Can you tell me how that can possibly be?
 
Atlas_Collins said:
I'm quite sure Ogami knows the difference.
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Ogami knows shit. I've seen him accuse someone of being a racist, like a typical PC conservative who's horrified at the possibility of being called a racist.

Clinton's Serbian war was a disgrace. 3,000 innocent Serbians were slaughtered during 88 days of bombing by us aircraft over-painted with NATO markings, while the International press posted nary a picture of the destruction and death. Why, do you think?
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Well, I think it's because there's a lot of quick money to be made from destruction, and that the mainstream press everyone watches is no one's friend.
 
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Well, I think it's because there's a lot of quick money to be made from destruction, and that the mainstream press everyone watches is no one's friend.
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The cause of the Kosovar muslims against the Serbs was supported by the marxist euroscum because the Kosovar muslims, aside from being jihadists, are also marxist/leninists. A very under reported fact.
 
Atlas_Collins said:
"May cause hardship"? How, exactly, would it "cause hardship"? You mean the retards and the street bums the democrats bus into the polls might be too stupid to have an ID on them when they go to sell their vote?

I always hear this ridiculous excuse that asking a voter to show ID is somehow a problem - or even "racist"?

Can you tell me how that can possibly be?
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Come on, don't be a fucking moron. You know damn good and well there's legitimate reasons people might not be able to make it to the polls to vote or be able to afford an ID card. Elderly on a fixed income for one. Regardless of the rosy picture the Republicans are painting about the economy right now, not everyone is making a million dollars these days. There are people out there that 20 bucks is food for a week.

And don't give me this shit about ID cards being free. I just checked my states web site and there's a 20 dollar charge for a basic ID card.
 
Sarek said:
Come on, don't be a fucking moron. You know damn good and well there's legitimate reasons people might not be able to make it to the polls to vote or be able to afford an ID card. Elderly on a fixed income for one. Regardless of the rosy picture the Republicans are painting about the economy right now, not everyone is making a million dollars these days. There are people out there that 20 bucks is food for a week.

And don't give me this shit about ID cards being free. I just checked my states web site and there's a 20 dollar charge for a basic ID card.
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Did you look up the meaning of the word "sophistic" that I posted a while ago? Or was the subtlety lost on you?

Anyone who lacks the basic foresight and wherewithall to do the bare minimum required to cast a valid ballot - or is incapacitated or too stupid, indolent and/or criminal and illegal to so so, probably shouldn't be voting anyway.

Only an informed and prepared electorate can make the informed and responsible decision as regards those who we consent to govern over us. Why would you be opposed to weeding out the stupid, the indolent and the criminal?
 
Criminals convicted of felonies or on parole loose the right to vote in 29 states currently. And I don't have a problem with that.

But now you're saying we should become a society that judges whether a person has the right to vote and have their voice count based on your determination of mental state or economic situation? Rather an elitist attitude isn't it?
 
I've actually used the term 'sophistry' before with Sarek, he should have looked it up by now.

In a simplistic mind ruled by soundbites, Bush stole the election, he steals Iraq's oil for Halliburton, he's forced us all to convert to his religion, he created Islamic terrorism, he created hurricane Katrina to punish blacks in New Orleans who didn't vote for him, and he's persecuting Democrats in a fascist police state. (Did I leave anything out?)

You can believe all that, and the rest of us can simply say you're nuts. Or sophistric. Take your pick.

-Ogami
 
Ogami Ogami knows da shit? Alright!
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No, I said Ogami knows shit, because Ogami is a scared, politically correct-whipped Goyim who'd crumble under the slander of racism I wear as a badge of honor.
 
Ogami said:
I've actually used the term 'sophistry' before with Sarek, he should have looked it up by now.

In a simplistic mind ruled by soundbites, Bush stole the election, he steals Iraq's oil for Halliburton, he's forced us all to convert to his religion, he created Islamic terrorism, he created hurricane Katrina to punish blacks in New Orleans who didn't vote for him, and he's persecuting Democrats in a fascist police state. (Did I leave anything out?)

You can believe all that, and the rest of us can simply say you're nuts. Or sophistric. Take your pick.

-Ogami
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This whole argument started because the Republicans jumped all over a sound bite and added their own spin to it.
 
Atlas_Collins said:
The cause of the Kosovar muslims against the Serbs was supported by the marxist euroscum because the Kosovar muslims, aside from being jihadists, are also marxist/leninists. A very under reported fact.
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And the United States.
 
I know the Neocons are drooling at the prospect of Kerry's misstatements "turning the tide" this election, but the Dems have already taken care of the damage, not only distancing themselves from Kerry's remarks and demanding he apologize, but removing him from any public speaking engagement between now and the elections.

It isn't the Dems that are "finished". My guess is that Kerry is finished, however.
 
Sarek said:
This whole argument started because the Republicans jumped all over a sound bite and added their own spin to it.
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there is no spin , kerrys fucking mouth was talking shit.
 
bet a nickel it won't mean shit on Tuesday.

You fascists had your chance :bigass:
 
If Bush lied, wouldn't he have also planted complete WMD evidence in Iraq?

If God speaks to Bush in person, why aren't all of you forced to convert to Bush's faith?

If Bush has created a fascist state, why aren't all Democrats in prison, gassed, deported, etc?

Now what is over the top is when we see the Democrats actively revealing secrets to the terrorist enemy, actively campaigning with Al Queda to get US troops out of the Middle East, and attack our soldiers as stupid and uneducated "victims" of Bush. That's an insult to the professionalism of today's soldier, and there are countless Democrats besides John Kerry who have been impugning our soldiers.

-Ogami
 
Sarek said:
Criminals convicted of felonies or on parole loose the right to vote in 29 states currently. And I don't have a problem with that.
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Should be 50 states.


But now you're saying we should become a society that judges whether a person has the right to vote and have their voice count based on your determination of mental state or economic situation? Rather an elitist attitude isn't it?
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All citizens of majority age have te right to vote. In fact, it is a citizens' reponsibility and duty to vote. It seems it's that "citizen's responsibility" part you seem to be having a problem with. If an individual's mental atate or economic situtation precludes that individual's ability of do his duty and vote no "judgment" is made by either society or me.

There is only one logical reason why the democrat swine vermin oppose showing a law requiring a picture ID to vote. Can you guess what it is?
 
Originally Posted by Atlas_Collins
"The cause of the Kosovar muslims against the Serbs was supported by the marxist euroscum because the Kosovar muslims, aside from being jihadists, are also marxist/leninists. A very under reported fact."


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And the United States.
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The Administration at the time was also marxist/leninist.
 
Atlas_Collins said:
Should be 50 states.




All citizens of majority age have te right to vote. In fact, it is a citizens' reponsibility and duty to vote. It seems it's that "citizen's responsibility" part you seem to be having a problem with. If an individual's mental atate or economic situtation precludes that individual's ability of do his duty and vote no "judgment" is made by either society or me.

There is only one logical reason why the democrat swine vermin oppose showing a law requiring a picture ID to vote. Can you guess what it is?
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Democrats say that the move to impose a national photo ID requirement is part of a Republican effort to discourage participation by low-income and minority voters likely to back Democratic candidates.

And the Republicans claim it's so the Democrats can cheat at the polls.

I distrust the Democrats also as much as the Republicans. But based on the last two elections, the absolute glee in which the Republicans took control, the historic levels of corruption in the Republican party now, and the desperate measures that the Republicans are employing to keep themselves in power,

I''ll take my chances with the Democrats this time around.
 
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A 10 second sound bite. John Kerry is so important. He's the President of the United States. His opinion is golden. That is why it is focused upon with such fury. Not because we are Republicans desperate to make an impact in the final week of the elections but because he's so important and represents the entire anti-war sentiment. Yes. Good show. You all make SaintLucifer look like Isaac Newton. You realize this, yes?

I strongly recommend a psychiatric visit to every single person who has posted in this thread as it is clear you are far too psychotic and in hot faggot love with John Kerry as to act as normal citizens of your diseased nation.

OH CANADA
 
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