Objectification - A discussion

[Tyrant]

Please see fit to never post in my direction unless you intend to remove your clothing also.

You were saying something about respect?

 

[Monolith]

Please see fit to never post in my direction unless you intend to remove your clothing also. That is about all you are good for. When men desire intellectual conversation, they never turn to whores such as yourself. You only appear in their mind's eye when they feel the rush of hormones and need to slow that rush down to a mere crawl. If men wish to talk 'dirty', they will address you but if they wish to discuss geopolitics and the like, they turn to a female who has self-confidence and self-respect. Why would a male display respect to a female who has none? Now run along and never darken my screen again.

You've said this to me before, yet you continue to darken my screen....

 

[Ishcabittle]

I know, I actually like this discussion.

I dunno, I guess my sexuality is more accepted in a club than outside of the club.

At work I'm more self assured, confident, and bold. And I like it. I feel lucky to have something like stripping to get me to achieve my dreams, which right now are halted by monetary reasons.

So the general rule of thumb seems to be that girls strip for a few years to pay for college or what have you. That's cool, I can see putting up with a relatively weird industry for a few years to meet some goals.

But I wonder what the statistics are of girls sticking to it for longer than they had intended? How many strippers out there have children? Where's the cutoff point when it turns from an transitional occupation to a permanent one?

 

[Sadistic Bastard]

I have friends who are Professional Domme's (and a couple who also switch...although being a pro sub is risky), and one and all they have told me that a great deal of the "joy" of BDSM for them is removed, even with their intimate partners, because it's too close to "work" for them. In a few cases they've even claimed that turning pro ruined D/s for them.

Is there a part you hold apart to prevent that from happening in your profession? A pocket of your sexuality that you don't allow cliets to see at the club, that's only for lovers?
-SB

 

[Monolith]

I'm not a brainless whore. Far from it. I graduated at the top ten percentile of my class and never missed a semester on honor roll in ALL of my school years. I'm pretty openminded and will do anything to achieve my goal. If that means I get shit from narrow minded dolts like Lucy, so be it. All I care is that someday soon I will be in my dream job and he will still be here posting 5 times in under a minute at TrollKingdom.

 

[Monolith]

I have friends who are Professional Domme's (and a couple who also switch...although being a pro sub is risky), and one and all they have told me that a great deal of the "joy" of BDSM for them is removed, even with their intimate partners, because it's too close to "work" for them. In a few cases they've even claimed that turning pro ruined D/s for them.

Is there a part you hold apart to prevent that from happening in your profession? A pocket of your sexuality that you don't allow cliets to see at the club, that's only for lovers?
-SB

Well for me, I keep my goal of being in the automotive racing industry in my head. Sure, it would be quite simple to give up and stay in this industry and it's lure of quick money.

 

[SaintLucifer]

You were saying something about respect?

I always knew you were none too bright and you keep proving it time and time again. You are just too easy. You did not understand my statement in the slightest. Now run along. MOmmy wants you to help her with the dishes.

 

[Sadistic Bastard]

St. Luci, you have other threads with a less serious focus to play in.

Leave and allow a discussion. If you have something substantial to say, you're welcome to it.

But that's about all of the attention you are going to get from me in this thread.

Remember: Starving a Troll is the best way to make them go away. They get really annoying when they get desperate, but that only tells you it's working. I know Luci's a fun target, but he's tiresome, like a super-ball on a blank concrete wall, fun to throw around for awhile, but one often wants something more substantial for entertainment.

Back to the discussion, gentle readers.
-SB

 

[Friday]

At work I'm more self assured, confident, and bold. And I like it. I feel lucky to have something like stripping to get me to achieve my dreams, which right now are halted by monetary reasons.

Maybe you can find a way to retain these valued parts of yourself outside an atmosphere that, by it's very nature, is false and illusory?

I understand stripping can be a lucrative job, however. The ease and swiftness in which one earns a substantial salary is addictive.

 

[Monolith]

That's why I'm staying on topic

 

[Tyrant]

I always knew you were none too bright and you keep proving it time and time again. You are just too easy. You did not understand my statement in the slightest. Now run along. MOmmy wants you to help her with the dishes.

While it's nice you got over your paralyzing fear of me, my son, now is not the time to resuming spamming and generally showing what a fucking idiot you are.

SB, I think you should recreate this thread in Hagnation or Right thinking. SF might have too much traffic and it will probably be passed over. Don't want a gem like this slipping into oblivion.

 

[Ishcabittle]

It's not a road I would take. I would feel objectified, but that's unique to my psychological make-up. What strippers are able to do, I think, is separate the physical act of sex from emotion. At least at work.

You gotta give them something for being as tough as they are to stick to it, yes. It probably takes a strong lady to put up with the down sides of the strip bar scene.

But also, wouldn't it take a strong will not to strip? Suppose you were a beautiful, young, vibrant woman in the blooming of her life. If it were me, I would be sorely tempted to make the big bucks for a casual jiggle.

 

[Monolith]

Maybe you can find a way to retain these valued parts of you outside an atmosphere that, by it's very nature, is false and illusory?

I understand stripping can be a lucrative job, however. The ease and swiftness in which one earns a substantial salary is addictive.

Well I suppose. But in Tucson, good jobs are reserved for PH.d's. That is no joke. There is nothing but the Air Force and IBM here. I hate computer work and I have a back injury, so I can do neither. Slave wages, a toast to living so close to Mexico. So I do what I can. I don't want to wait forever to be happy in my career choice. And although he's expressed the want to financially support me, I refuse to depend on my husband.

 

[Ishcabittle]

Well for me, I keep my goal of being in the automotive racing industry in my head. Sure, it would be quite simple to give up and stay in this industry and it's lure of quick money.

But that doesn't really answer his question... The racing goal is good to have because it solidifies your desire to use stripping to an end.

I think he was asking more about keeping something of yourself private, something of your sexual self. Are you more sexy for your clients than you are for your lover?

 

[Monolith]

Hell no I am not. I am sexy enough, but my true sexiness is the real me. Only he sees that. And while they can see my body, they'll never get to what's in my head, which is what made my husband fall in love with me.

 

[SaintLucifer]

St. Luci, you have other threads with a less serious focus to play in.

Leave and allow a discussion. If you have something substantial to say, you're welcome to it.

But that's about all of the attention you are going to get from me in this thread.

Remember: Starving a Troll is the best way to make them go away. They get really annoying when they get desperate, but that only tells you it's working. I know Luci's a fun target, but he's tiresome, like a super-ball on a blank concrete wall, fun to throw around for awhile, but one often want's something more substantial for entertainment.

Back to the discussion, gentle readers.
-SB

Must suck to have such a low IQ does it not? Please begin a thread about how life is for one who must go through life considered a complete moron yes? No doubt MESSENGER has much to contribute to this thread along with the strippers who are too stupid to see they are nothing but objects who exist for the momentary gratification of males. I would dare anyone to look carefully upon the class of male who frequents strip clubs and then report back to me. Did we learn anything? Yes we did. Those males who frequent strip clubs are either young men (just out of high school) who wish to see some older pussy or pathetic losers who cannot meet a female outside of such a place.

I am too good for strip clubs. The only individual who may be worthy of anything in a strip club would be the owners for they have successfully made females into that which they were meant to be, our lap dogs (lap dance see?). I knew personally a couple of strippers although I never bothered to see their acts. I grew up with them so I lost respect for them once they entered the 'profession'. I used to joke that perhaps I could be their pimp and they would service my 'johns'. This angered them to the point of screaming at me. Why would this anger them so? Simple. They have no self-respect and I am their to keep reminding them. I have not seen them in many years and have absolutely no intention of ever seeing them. Amongst my friends, I was the only one who never saw fit to watch their stage shows. One of them had a crush on me before she turned to stripping. I had not shown the slightest interest in her simply because I noticed something odd about her. Something not quite right. A screw loose if I may. When she told me of her new job at a strip club, I was not the least bit surprised. From that moment on, I barely even bothered with her. I had told her if I wanted to see her again, then perhaps I had better have a loonie ready. Think about it gentlement, a loonie for a loonie.

 

[Monolith]

Yes Luci, you are right. We DO exist for the temporary monetary gratification of males. That's the business. And it's work. That's all. And the smart ones, like some of the girls that have come from SW, think of it as a "for now" situation.

Luci, do you honestly believe that if we cared so much about your opinion that we'd still be here? If so, you're delusional.

 

[Tyrant]

They have no self-respect and I am their to keep reminding them

Their? What's a 'to keep reminding them,' anyway???

There's a difference between whorish women and those who might strip for the money, so why not try to contain your vitriol? Simply because some attractive women snubbed you means you have to have contempt for all of them???

 

[Monolith]

Ok, well I am off to go play my guiatar for a while. I'll be happy to keep sharing my thoughts to anybody who wishes

 

[SaintLucifer]

Their? What's a 'to keep reminding them,' anyway???

There's a difference between whorish women and those who might strip for the money, so why not try to contain your vitriol? Simply because some attractive women snubbed you means you have to have contempt for all of them???

Do tell. How does society label a female who accepts money for sexual favours? Yes. A WHORE. Oopsy. Strippers do the same thing. WHORE.