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Star Trek Picard season 2

I'm enjoying it, but have no idea what's really going on. Why does Q have all his powers gone yet is still 400 years in the past?
 
CaptainWacky said:
I was trying to come up with a theory that the Q we're seeing in the 21st century scenes isn't the same Q who sent Picard back in time, but rather the Q from the Confederation timeline. And he's trying to ensure that his timeline still comes to pass. The reason he's lost his powers is because there's only supposed to be one Q across all the multiverse but somehow he's been split in two: the good Q stranded in the 25th century, the bad in the 21st. And it's made him go mad too.

It's not a theory that holds up well.
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The hypothesis which contains the fewest number of superfluous variables is the most likely to be valid.

In this case: Q is the same Q and still has his powers. The Continuum is simply overriding his powers when it comes to using them directly against Renee Picard specifically.

Evidence: We've seen them depower/repower him before. What we've never seen before, and a thing that would require a whole slew of new and unnecessary variables, is a member of the Continuum "running low on gas."
 
In the program itself, they mention how they have a limited time in the 24th century before the timeline becomes permanent, that's why they had to go back in time quickly, at that point Q still had his powers. Once they got to the 21st century Q was weaker for the same reason Guinan didn't recognise Picard, the future where Picard does times arrow and where Q gets his power back no longer happens.
 
whisky said:
In the program itself, they mention how they have a limited time in the 24th century before the timeline becomes permanent, that's why they had to go back in time quickly, at that point Q still had his powers. Once they got to the 21st century Q was weaker for the same reason Guinan didn't recognise Picard, the future where Picard does times arrow and where Q gets his power back no longer happens.
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Yeah, but Guinan doesn't recognize Picard and then slowly forget him. You're still relying on a superfluous variable.
 
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Besides, it's perfectly reasonable to infer that Q still has his powers based on what he does for / with Soong. How easy do you suppose it would be for a guy with zero material resources and zero connections to manufacture a "demo" cure for Kore Soong's genetic condition -- or to even know that she had one and that her creator was looking for that cure? The only explanation that fits everything we see on screen is that Q still has his powers, but for whatever reason can't use them directly against Renee Picard. (That 'whatever reason' is the interference of the Q Continuum, since they're the only force we've ever been told are capable of altering Q's powers.)

Besides, we've seen Q fully powered in alternate timelines (Tapestry) and at the dawn of the human race (All Good Things). Timelines and chronolocation don't affect his powers. Only the Continuum has ever done that.

Although... this is KurtzmanTrek, which sometimes shares nothing but the nameplate with authentic Star Trek. So who knows? Maybe it comes to light that he ate a fucking burrito that disagreed with him.
 
The Continuum overriding his powers is the most reasonable theory.

But yeah - I suspect you (and everyone else in this thread) are putting a lot more thought into it than the writers' room.
 
Just another thought. Welcome to the very end of the road not taken... So, at the beginning of this clusterfuck, the change in the past had already occurred. So, we assume Q preserved Prime timeline Picard and co, enacted the change in 2024, then deposited them in "present" day Confederation. Then, Picard and co go back (with Q present in Picard's head for the trip back).

But we see Q attempting to create the divergence in 2024 from the vantage point of Our Heroes - right? And he lost his powers.

I think I'll give up there.
 
MODMAN said:
Just another thought. Welcome to the very end of the road not taken... So, at the beginning of this clusterfuck, the change in the past had already occurred. So, we assume Q preserved Prime timeline Picard and co, enacted the change in 2024, then deposited them in "present" day Confederation. Then, Picard and co go back (with Q present in Picard's head for the trip back).

But we see Q attempting to create the divergence in 2024 from the vantage point of Our Heroes - right? And he lost his powers.

I think I'll give up there.
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There has to be two different Q's.
 
Reading the Memory Alpha entry on Picard, specifically the narrative on his childhood, then contrasting that with the "childhood" flashbacks of STP Picard... this is definitely not the TNG Picard. The TNG Picard had an older brother; this one apparently doesn't. The TNG Picard had a strict father who favored him over his older brother; this Picard apparently had a terrifyingly abusive father and was a mama's boy. I seem to recall Patrick Stewart alluding to something like that being true of his own childhood.

So, basically, this version of Picard is Stewart pulling a Marty Stu -ish self insert on the character.
 
El Aurian / Continuum Cold War?

El Aurians: long lived, psychic, spooky temporal awareness. Race was assimilated by The Borg.

The Q: can manipulate space, time, matter and energy on a cosmic scale effortlessly.

Also, Guinan can summon Q with a bottle containing "the moment" or what-have-you.

Is that why Q told off Q2 for provoking The Borg - are The Continuum afraid of them because they learned of their vulnerabilities from assimilating El Auria?

Fuuuuck.

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Yeah I'm done. No hope. I will assume SNW and all remaining NuTrek product will be utter tosh. If some of what comes off the conveyor belt is alright, it will be a pleasant surprise. For now, our best hope for decent Trek this century is for Paramount / Viacom to fold in the next year or three, leaving Shari Redstone no choice but to sell it off in parts to the highest bidder.

Perhaps oxymoronic to suggest a shark jump when this shite has never punched above mediocre.
 
Axanar would have been good Star Trek. That's probably why CBS shut it down. Not only do they refuse to make good Star Trek; they don't want anybody else to do it, either.
 
I don't know about Picard in a coma, this episode nearly put me in one. If this was the penultimate episode where is the build up for the finale, where is the excitement?
 
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