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The Leftovers

We were very surprised by this episode, a very WTF moment. My wife's theory is that the old man heard from the grandson who heard from crazy fireman that Kevin's palm print was a match and killing him was a revenge angle for the daughter who departed.

This show makes me want to smoke again. Just the careless abandon with which they smoke. Smoke smoke smoke...
 
Grandpa's name is Virgil. Virgil was Dante's guide through hell and purgatory!

Tell your wife to get an acct at TK so I can talk to her about The Leftovers :rwmad:

I've read comments saying that the hand print Kevin made didn't match the hand print they showed on the scanner. I did not pay such close attention to that. Maybe I should watch this show through a fork and hanging upside down from a tree. This show really needs some lostigating.
 
I THINK maybe Virgil blamed Kevin for his grandaughter disappearing. Because "God" or whatever made the lake drain to save Kevin's life and a side effect of that was the girls disappearing. Maybe. Michael definitely seemed to know what was going on. It's a bit weird that he would assist with a murder suicide but he won't have sex with his hot girlfriend or allow swearing in church. I hope he doesn't put Kevin in a tomb and Kevin rises after three days...
 
Find out which level of hell you will be sent to Dante's Inferno Test - Impurity, Sin, and Damnation (I'M JUST REALLY LIKING THE DANTE STUFF AND I HOPE KEVIN AND VIRGIL ARE TRAIPSING THROUGH HELL)

The sweet light no longer strikes against your eyes. Your shade has been banished to... the Seventh Level of Hell!

Seventh Level of Hell

Guarded by the Minotaur, who snarls in fury, and encircled within the river Phlegethon, filled with boiling blood, is the Seventh Level of Hell. The violent, the assasins, the tyrants, and the war-mongers lament their pitiless mischiefs in the river, while centaurs armed with bows and arrows shoot those who try to escape their punishment. The stench here is overpowering. This level is also home to the wood of the suicides- stunted and gnarled trees with twisting branches and poisoned fruit. At the time of final judgement, their bodies will hang from their branches. In those branches the Harpies, foul birdlike creatures with human faces, make their nests. Beyond the wood is scorching sand where those who committed violence against God and nature are showered with flakes of fire that rain down against their naked bodies. Blasphemers and sodomites writhe in pain, their tongues more loosed to lamentation, and out of their eyes gushes forth their woe. Usurers, who followed neither nature nor art, also share company in the Seventh Level.
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PURGATORY!!! Poor Virgil, he drank the water :(

Looks like Liv Tyler will be in next week's episode, but the previews are tricky sometimes. There's only a couple more episodes left, so she probably will show up... fuck maybe we don't get an episode next week because Thanksgiving :rwmad:

I bet Kevin was in the ground for 3 days.
 
Patti was awesome. If she's off the show now, I will miss the shit out of her.
 
I really enjoyed how they developed the relationship between Kevin and Patti. It made the show really good imo. I'll miss her too.

I also like how they have this deal like - "Oh, you think that last episode was crazy? Well, check this shit out."

But somehow it works really well. Much better than I expected. Certainly unlike anything I've ever seen.

I even like how Kevin looks around all confused when shit goes sideways. Then that goddamn piano music starts playing and you feel all hopeless and sad.

Fucking great tv.
 
Yesterday I was reading a review/recap thingy and there were people in the comments complaining about people who like this show. FUCK, why does it bother people when people really like tv shows? I don't think The Leftovers is perfect or anything, but it is fucking fun to watch. Every time the show tops the crazy shit they did last week I am thrilled. I like The Leftovers for many reasons. It's a mystery, a drama, a crazy supernatural thing, it has really good acting, it has fantastic weird characters, it has its own mythology (even if we dont' really know what the mythology is), it refers to existing mythology in weird ways, THEY WENT TO PURGATORY, Kevin's dad, Holy Wayne guzzling the water of forgetfulness - I am getting carried away :rwmad:

I watched The Leftovers again last night because I wanted to see the things I missed. I haven't wanted to watch a tv show episode twice in a row in a long time.

Little kid Patti was as perfect as grown up Patti. Even though Kevin had to kill her, they still made it sweet. Patti was someone we were supposed to hate, the GR version of her was much easier to hate than the other two versions Kevin had to kill.
 
So, speaking of people we'll miss - I miss Mayor Lucy. She didn't take Kevin's shit.

Do you remember hearing Neil was dead prior to Kevin running into him in the hall in purgatory? Are we sure that's purgatory and not hell? So Patti offed him?

I always get the feeling everyone else is working their own deal but using Kevin to do the deed by promising to help him with his issues.

Jump off the bridge with a noose around my neck instead of kill the little girl I know I have to? No thanks and fuck you, you crazy hobo.

My wife and I were under the impression that grandson Michael was in on the whole 'help Grandpa help Kevin fight his demon' plan. While he did seem horrified but not surprised that gramps ate a bullet, he did seem quite shocked to see Kevin digging himself out of the yawning void at the end.
 
I think Michael was completely in on the plan, and probably believed in it too, but seeing Kevin crawl out of that grave would have been like seeing Jesus come out of his tomb.

You know, I don't remember them saying Neil was dead. Maybe Kevin did Patti a big favor and Neil choked on that chicken irl when Kevin snapped his neck.
 
Which makes me wonder just exactly what the plan was.

Cuz the 'Kevin drinks the poison then gets the epinephrine' plan was pretty different then the 'Kevin takes poison and gets buried by Michael who recently lost his grandfather to suicide after shooting the epinephrine out on the floor' plan.

Have you dared to speculate on what the hell is actually going on with the departures yet? I want to but I've been purposely holding off after discovering how much I'm enjoying the show. It's good enough to go along for the ride.
 
The departures don't make sense in a Christian way, so I've decided it definitely wasn't the rapture. It's hard to come up with a reason that makes sense without knowing anything about anything! I think Kevin's dad knows wtf is going on.
 
Every time the fire alarm went off in the hotel it was Kevin's high as fuck dad trying to communicate.
 
That throws a wrench in a standard-model Purgatory theory.

It's was also very funny that they kept putting the fire out.
 
Were we supposed to know who the guy on the bridge who wanted Kevin to hang himself was?

It was good seeing Holy Wayne again.

I'm expecting to see Kevin watching older episodes of Jeopardy now looking to see if Patti was really on it.
 
What do you think about Mary Jamison being there (the bellhop was delivering the balloons to her)? She wasn't a vegetable there. Maybe this is where her consciousness is trapped.
 
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