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The Walking Dead season 4

How come Harry Potter died from the sickness really quickly but Glenn, Maggie, etc are still alive (I assume) days later? Did he have less immunity from disease because he was from the fifties?
 
Well, it was an exhausting episode, in a good way. And it was nice for Herschel to get the limelight. But it's difficult to get past the contrived disasters of the infection and the fences being overrun.

The infection is a cheap way of getting zombies inside the prison, but it would be forgivable if it wasn't so plainly inconsistent. I just feel like they've wasted an opportunity by killing off all the Woodbury residents when they could've explored the community aspect more and made us start to actually care about some of them, instead of using them as impactless fodder.

And the fence thing is all very well, but you'd think they'd have taken more precautions. Built a trench, made some Molotovs. Something more than the trees. Ok, earlier on they did have more spare people to kill and move away zombies, but the numbers had been building up for some time.

Anyway, I did enjoy the episode!
 
I think they might be wary of having our heroes get too comfortable, people were screaming about them being stuck on the farm for all of season two.

And I've got a bad feeling we're going to be losing Herschel after his time in the limelight.
 
The first half where it was just "oh no, character we knew nothing about is dead!" was tedious, but it got better after that. Of course you've got to wonder why Herschel didn't lock the doors of the people with the virus in case they turned. Did he forget they're in a prison?

I kind of like the little girl (not in that way!) who says things like "I thought he could understand me!" because children probably would think things like that, maybe.

OMG THAT GUY THEY DIDN'T KILL OFF LAST SEASON IS STILL ALIVE.
 
Old people zombies are scarier than regular zombies.

This felt like a "long periods of silence mean CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT" episode but I don't feel like we really found out much we didn't already know?
 
I liked the last episode for the potential direction they can take with the former governor. As a comic book character he was, well...A comic book character. But if they could find a way to somehow redeem him on TV. Maybe show the side that made his performance early on so brilliant...THAT would be a hell of a piece of writing. Especially if they dangle that redemption carrot in front of him only to yank it away, which is what I see happening. Star crossed characters are way more interesting than bland boyscouts.
 
I don't see how he can work longterm. He can't move into the prison as Rick, Michonne or Daryl would surely just execute him on the spot.
 
You don't think they'd let him in just so they could kill him? He is coming with friends and the little girl. Rick may find the friends useful and the little girl would be someone Rick would be compelled to help.
 
I felt the same as Wacky. Maybe some people will have an interpretation of the episode that reveals a majestic and tragic poetry, but for me it was a lot of long silences and shuffling around that could've been used to better relate his motivation and feelings.

We didn't really find out much we didn't already know, and I don't find his redemption really washes when he's been responsible for so many deaths. I mean, the episode began with a flashback to him mowing down ten or so people in cold blood, so he's gonna have to fetch a few more backgammon boards before I start getting feels about his mental torture.
 
Don't forget he fetched the oxygen bottles too. Him rushing up the corridor in the opposite direction than what he had come and knew what was there was not very bright. He lost all those oxygen bottles to a horde he could have avoided. Also, don't know that the older sisters survived. One was injured and the other was helping her through the woods. People get swamped by the slow moving but relentless zombie mobs. However, I, too, think they could have used this reintroduction of Brian better if the intent is to get him back into Rick's good graces. Brian definitely has no friends at the prison so it is going to take a miracle to get him in their alive.
 
The problem is they just made him too all out evil last season. As Donovan said he started off more like how he was in this episode, before it was revealed that he was a complete nutter (so Andrea couldn't resist sleeping with him.)
 
All this speculation when it's pretty clear what's up. The Governor has just one purpose and that's to kill Rick and Michonne.
 
Make no mistake, his attempt at redemption will and should be a failure. He will lose his new "family" and his darkness will consume him. But not before we get some hopefully strong television out of it. Remember, we were treated to powerful television in the death of druggie racist scumbag Merle. It's all about the journey, and the Governor entertained us for a whole season. His story deserves a better ending than being run off by a couple smoke bombs and Glen being very stern with him.
I compare this Rick/ Governor dynamic to Adam and Satan in Paradise Lost. Two characters, both trying to do right by their own people, faced tough choices and moments of darkness in themselves. But where Rick has managed to save himself and maintain his humanity, the Governor has failed repeatedly and become lower and lower. Rick started last season emotionally bottomed out, while the Governor was at the top of his world. And where are they now? Rick is more or less back in charge with a busted coucil, and the Governor is literally in a pit.
And without spoiler icing too much from Comic relates, those who have read know the Governor and Rick have unfinished business. At least in the books The Governor takes something very important away from Rick before they're done.
This can only end one way for the Governor. But watching him get there will be a hoot.
 
So yeah, turns out he never really wanted redemption (or knew it wasn't an option.) Now he's back with a new community of people who he's going to use to attack the prison. Basically back where he was last season.

(The lesbian sister has big breasts.)
 
Yeah it does make sense from the Governor's point of view. The question is if viewers are still interested in seeing him back in the same position he was last season.
 
Not only did it leave us back where we were last year (and the footage in the preview for next week could've just been reused for all I'd know), but the whole episode felt really rushed.

The most jarring bit was after Thingy got thrown in the pit. I swear it was just the girls and the Guv in the camp til then, then suddenly it's the next morning and there are 40 people and 5 caravans. And Viktor Nosejob from Dollhouse died too soon. :(
 
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