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White Nationalism: The Only Rational Choice
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Squirtle The Turtle
Grand General of The L.H.A.R
WHITE POWER!!
WHITE PEOPLE NEED A NATION OF OUR OWN, TO SAFEGUARD OUR TRADITIONS. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTIONS IN BEING A FURRY OR AN ADULT BABY AS LONG AS YOUR WHITE!! WHITE POWER!! THE CONTINENT OF EUROPOE BELONGS NOW AND ALWAYS SHALL BELONG TO THE WHITE RACE THAT WAS SPAWNED ON THE GLORIOUS MOTHERLAND OF EUROPE!! WHITE POWER!!
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DEVIANT LIFESTYLE, WHILE HETROSEXUALITY IS THE NORM ( IRREGARDLESS OF THEIR KINK). THE HOMOSEXUAL AGAENDA TO REDUCE OUR MEN TO POLE SMOKING FAGGOTS WHO KISS ASS AND TOSS SALADS IS A DEMENTED, SATANIC ATTEMPT TO REDUCE OUR RACE TO WEAK WILLED FAGGOTS!! WHITE POWER!! AMERICA IS BECOMING A DEGENERATE NATION OF FAGGOTS AND THOSE WHO ARE RACE TRAITORS AND WANNA BE NIGGERS!! WHITE POWER!!
Charlemagne
Holy Roman Emperor
No. Should be permabanned though, if you ask me.
The Question
Eternal
I'm a racist. And guess what? So are each and every one of you. Here's the two biggest differences on this score between myself and a lot of you, though: It's not my own people I'm racist against, and I'm honest about being a racist. Oh, and the whole 'white power' thing? Yeah, whatever. If morons like this 'turtle' spent half as much time rebuilding it as talking about it, maybe there'd actually be such a thing again.
The Question
Eternal
Then put the barrel of a gun where only the most desperate of cock has been and pull the trigger on your convictions, you worthless waste of biomass.
'Gear
RIP 1970~2018
Aren't you?
Squirtle The Turtle
Grand General of The L.H.A.R
My dear Saint, there is nothing to rebuild.
You see, from the very begining this land did not belong to the Europeans; no one can argue that the Indians lived here first and that they are indeed the native people here.
The question then is this; why try to fix America? I personally believe it makes more sense to request that we repatriated to Europe, since that is our homeland (or ancestral, anyway). There, yes, we can rebuild and we have every right to.
As for the Nazi shtick; I disagree about Nazism. It seems to me to be a ideology that has been proven to be a failure. Anyone that thinks ONE European group or ethnicity is better then an other is really splitting hairs.
So do I want to fix America? No, let it rot. JUst let all these morons who have cried for power for years get it, and just see how inept and ill prepared they are for it. Fact is, it is much easier to agitate for power then to rule. It is infinitely more easy to cry "victim", then it is to grab the riens of power and lead.
I am confident that were we to leave America and resettle in Europe (country of your choosing), that we would have much to offer our European kin. But I think it is a serious error to assume that now or ever America will be a "White" nation.
I base that, as I have said, on the fact it was multicultural from the begining. Additionally, if any one is so stupid as to push for ethnic cleansing, let me just mention that wouldn.t work either. The only choice is to pick up and take everything that is ours (including capital and assets) and settle in Europe.
So, can anyone pony up for a ticket to Poland?
Squirtle The Turtle
Grand General of The L.H.A.R
Not necessarily. On different issues I stand differently.
I believe, first amnd foremost, in the creation of a White homeland ran by Whites, for Whites of Whites. However, I don't believe we should do it in America as I have explained.
I do agree with the Environmentalists on many things as well.
As for Welfare and stuff like that, I'm not against it. I am more then willing to throw a couple dollars around to keep angry, starving mobs away from my house. To put it quite simply, there isn't enough bullets to kill them all if I had to. It just makes sense to give them enough money to stay in their hovels, smoke crack and drink cheap wine and leave me alone.
I don't know why people don't get it. Welfare is good..It keeps the lower class stoned, drunk and hopefully too incapacitated to want to bother with me.
In fact, I would like to see all dope made legal and really cheap. Once the inner city is sufficiently stoned, we can expect crime to go down. I mean, when was the last time you planned a mugging smoking a join? You're too busy feeding your face to bother anyone. A penny a pound!
I also advocate releasing all Black prisoners back into their neighborhoods and then withdrawing the police. They always want to bitch about the police, let the fuckers deal with it themselves. I'd make it a policy they could do whatever the hell they wanted as long as they stayed on THEIR side of town.
I figure since Blacks know everything and are perfect, they don't need my old' dog smelling White devil ass to help them. Let them go fuck each other neck . Hell, let them make cannibal stew out of each other and dance a watuzi around a burning house while smashing old women in the head with fourty ounce bottles. I really couldn't give a damn.
The Question
Eternal
Nope. They crossed the Bering Land Bridge. So no, the backward savages of the Americas? Not native, either.
The Question
Eternal
Pussy. Rebuild it here. Otherwise, you know what happens? Let's say you rebuild it in Russia, or just for fun, in Antarctica. Guess what happens once whites build up a civilization there with a good standard of living? Here come the hordes -- again. Here come the millions upon millions of people in all different shades of brown with their entitlement outlook and victimhood games to swarm over the fucking thing -- again -- and breed out the whites who turned nothing into something, because true to the history of every civilization like that throughout history, they want something for nothing and there will always be a contingent of tearful, self-hating white cunts who'd like nothing better than to hand it over to them, to watch a prosperous white society crumble to assuage their own guilt.
So, no. No more building it up just to give it away. Rebuild it here.
Ilyanna
moral imperfection
Dear Squirtle,
for the sake of me trying to get into the discussion, please
Sincerely,
Ilyanna
for the sake of me trying to get into the discussion, please
- define "white"
- give me more information about what it is you have to offer to your 'European kin' upon resettling there.
- inform me: Have you been to Europe? Where exactly?
- elaborate on what you think is the ethnic/cultural structure in Europe,
- explain: When you say Europe, do you refer to the political or the geographical definition?
- tell me - what exactly makes you think that 'the Europeans' would welcome an American White Nationalists' attempt to 'rebuild' in their respective countries? And what exactly do you mean by 'rebuilding', anyway?
Sincerely,
Ilyanna
Squirtle The Turtle
Grand General of The L.H.A.R
For the first part, it is quite simple. The word White is erroneous in many sense, since Europeans and their descendants come in every hue from extremely fair to more tanned in complexion. A better phrase would be "European", and/or some combination of that.
So, yes, if your DNA clearly shows the vast majority of your genes hail from the continent of Europe, you are White.
It also carries the connotation of culture. In other words, White people have a diverse culture with roots in Europe. Evidence of this is seen in various families by what they eat (perogi, anyone?), stories they tell and customs.
So what is White? White means that 1) the vast majority of your genes comes from a country in Europe 2) you are a member of the larger White community as both defined by culture and 3) by others who are not (like Black folks) .
As I said, White is a misnoymer because it dosen;t recognize the diversity of ethnicities in Europe. But, for now, that's were called.
2) For one thing I believe if we brought our capital, we could boost their economy. Further more, there could not be anything but gain for them if we came over. Sure we would have to adapt to new customs, but some of what could be termed "American" culture would rub off on them.
We often forget that some of what is looked down on by Europeans are positive. Certainly in the coming conflict between Islam and Europe (especially the West), they need all the allies they can get.
I propose a deal where, in exchange for citizenship, the immigrants would volunteer a certain amount of time of military service. After completion, they would be naturalized as citizens of that nation.
3) Nope..but I would prefer it instead of living under Obama. I can see the writing on the wall...If you think that once the Blacks get power they will worry about "justice", then you need your head examined, white man. When they come into power and control everything, there will come a day of "payback". The demogauges will come out of the woodwork justifying attacking people, just like they did the L.A riots.
Don't fool yourself, the only think a Black man wants is your money. As far as you go, he hates your fucking guts and would love it if he could ride roughshod on you. The fuckers are still mad about slavery!
3) Wow..thats a big issue. I know they have E.U there, and they tend to be less religious (or at least the U.K is). Each nation, as I said, have their own customs and lifeways. To generalize about such a diversity of people
living in Europe would be more then I could possibly write here.
4) I mean Europe it's self, the continent of Europe.
5) By rebuild I mean to work together with other like minded people to preserve the culture of that country from the invasion of forieng elements. A people have a right to their culture. They have a right to define the nature of that culture, and to defend themselves when someone attacks that culture.
The fact there are Muslim groups that have set up their own fiefdoms in Europe, and in some cases would like to bring sharia law clearly illustrates the problem. As a White Nationalist, I am willing to adapt to my new country as any good citizen should do.
A more simple thing is to say that Europe is being colonized, except the colonial power is Pakistan and other nations. Just as it was wrong for us to try to take over their countries, it is equally wrong for them to try to take over Europe. If it continues this way, the original inhabitants will be pushed out by the hordes from other nations.
Seems to me they should take care of their own fucking problems. Why is Europe's responsibility to take these people in and bend over backwards for them? Let the Pakistanis improve Pakistan, e.t.c.
Ilyanna
moral imperfection
Interesting approach. Do you have a recent source at hand that supports the theory that genetics can differentiate races? I've only found rather unspecific stuff on that. In 2002, Craig Venter from the Human Genome Project said in an article in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that 'we cannot determine the ethnic affiliation of a person on the basis of the genetic code, since race and ethnic affiliation are not based on scientific, but on social concepts'. His colleague Francis S. Collins, otoh, wrote in this article in 2004: 'Increasing scientific evidence, however, indicates that genetic variation can be used to make a reasonably accurate prediction of geographic origins of an individual, at least if that individual's grandparents all came from the same part of the world.'
Then again, the current Human Genome Project homepage states: 'DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other. Indeed, it has been proven that there is more genetic variation within races than exists between them.' (link)
I will google more when I have the time, but for now I think I can safely assume that finding out if a person is European or not might prove to be a tad bit difficult, no?
Ooh, culture... culture is such a complex thing. You see, if you take, for example, the Spanish culture and the German one, you will actually find more differences than common ground, mostly based on the historical development of the countries. Can you please tell me how you can possibly say that the Spanish and the German people have a common cultural denominator, yet Morocco and Spain don't? I really think that culture is way too complex a structure to work as a basis for defining a race.
As I said - show me how to do that and we have a basis to further discussion.
'Larger White community'? What do you mean by that? Also, I am not sure if I understand what you mean by 3), are you saying that white is everything non-black, non-hispanic, non-whatever else?
So you are stating that there is a variety of different ethnicities in Europe, but to make it more simple, we just pretend that they are one race and call it 'white'?
Oh, money. Well, money sure is nice to have more of. Of course, that would mean that the majority of people coming to Europe will actually have money (and the willingness) to share.
Um, conceited, much?
you bet you would...
And what exactly would that be? And more importantly - do you actually believe that the majority of Europeans would look forward to that? No offence to Americans, but ...CONCEITED, MUCH??
Examples, please?
Yeah, sure. Coming conflict. Can't see one yet, apart from some politicians' and religious fanatics' attempts to construe one. besides, since when do allies have to live in the country they want to help?
So you're not only assuming that this theoretical conflict you are talking about will have to be solved militarily, you also seem to believe that the European countries lack people doing military service, AND that they would trust you enough to let you near their weapons. Oh, I dunno. Can't see that happening anytime soon.
3)
Oh wow, you must be really frustrated. At the risk of sounding snotty - I don't think you know what you are talking about. Europe is not an entity. It consists of a variety of different countries, cultures, and political systems, especially when we talk about the Europe as you define it. There are all kinds of unstable, poor, struggling regions where you really, really don't want to move to, trust me on this. You think the "threat" of the black people getting power in the US is bad? Try living in Romania, where over 40% of the population in the country live below poverty line, and domestic violence is the norm. Or in Kazakhstan, where the social tension between the Russian and Kazakh population is growing on a daily basis so the next Civil War is just a matter of time. Or central Spain, where the country is dying from lack of water.... you get the drift.
Sorry dear, but you really are preaching to the wrong person here.
There are quite a few nations that are very religious, Poland and Spain, for example. But, yes, that was exactly my point, there is no 'Europe' as an entity, no matter how hard the European Parliament wishes it were so. In fact, there are countries in Europe that are more different from each other in culture as well as the political and social structure than, say, Germany and the US. So before you pack your stuff to move here, you better make damn sure you know where exactly it is you want to spend the rest of your life.
OK, so following your argumentation, you want the U.S. American White Nationalists to move to Albania, Andorra, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia-Hezegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Republic of Macedonia, Malta, Moldavia, Monaco, Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia (parts of), San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey (parts of), Ukraine, United Kingdom, or Vatikan City (LOL, I can't wait to see you guys trying to settle there).
Heh, and yet you say that
So I take it some cultures are better than others?
Which, in fact, means that in some cases, you will probably have to just suck it up and accept the building of mosques, and the teaching of islam as a religion in school.
Nice theory. But it's only that: a theory. Fact is that the Immigration balance in 2008 and 2009 was negative. In 2009, 30,000 people from Turkey moved to Germany, while 40,000 people moved from Germany back to Turkey. Colonization my ass.
See, now that is one point we agree on. Let's all take care of our own problems, shall we? So, as the Saint suggested, would you please stay in your own country and try solving any issues you have there?
'Gear
RIP 1970~2018
Ilyanna is now the proud owner of StT. I can't speak to the value, but the ownership is full and complete.
StT- You should have known better then to try to define white. Too bad for you. Good thing you're just a silly racism troll.
So Ilyanna, what are you going to do with your new turtle?
StT- You should have known better then to try to define white. Too bad for you. Good thing you're just a silly racism troll.
So Ilyanna, what are you going to do with your new turtle?
The Question
Eternal
There are, apparently, racially aware whites and, on the other hand, racists. Too bad the latter pretend to be the former.
'Gear
RIP 1970~2018
I read you called yourself (and everyone else) racist. I happen to agree.
Would you care to elaborate?
No troll here. Straight question.
Gear
The Question
Eternal
Racism is simply a pejorative term for tribalism, and tribalism is a fact of human social evolution. It's the dark side of the same coin that's resulted in humans being social creatures. We look out for our immediate family and then, by extension, our extended family, and after that, those who bear the greatest physical resemblance to us. Comes right down from our days hiding out in caves and fending off predators -- including groups of humans competing for the same pool of resources. And the tendency is inherent in all humans today.
So call it social cohesion or call it racism -- it's embedded in all of us.
So call it social cohesion or call it racism -- it's embedded in all of us.
'Gear
RIP 1970~2018
Or like a sort of cultural separatism on the flipside?
In some cases here, I'm afraid you've dropped your pearls among swine.
Thanks,
Gear