Karma Kabal

[Eggs Mayonnaise]

Ooo, buttons!

We're sitting down to dinner (I love visiting the family in the suburbs) but I can take a peek in a little bit.

 

[Cacophony]

mm, you really shouldn't have to reset all of the karma by yourself. The reason you have other admins is so that they can take some of the workload off of yourself.

That being said, I'll kick GTC's e-ass if he doesn't start helping out more. He has off tonight, so he should have time to help out.

 

[Eggs Mayonnaise]

OK, I think the key is finding an area that controls options for "vbBux", because the arcade calculates the cost of playing with that, and vbBux seem to be synonymous with karma points here. The options in vBkarma don't control it, and neither do the arcade options, so I'll try to find the secret of vbBux after dinner...

 

[curiousa2z]

oooh! it's like the clues in the da Vinci Code..!

 

[missmanners]

I'm crosseyed! I feel the need to look at Johnny Depp for a while.


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[Eggs Mayonnaise]

Hopefully you are subscribed to those threads, I think I've already posted every picture of him that there is.

 

[GStone]

To be quite honest, we may was well rename the board Karma Kingdom. If only I could come up with a third 'K' word, so the acronym of the board is 'KKK'...

Kitchen or Kool-Aid Man.

Lawsuits and subpoenas?

Being extra flexible.

I really LOVE fighting with you my only regret is there is no makeup sex.


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How can you run this board and not think of online sex? Is it on that 14 page list of things to do?

omg. how come we never saw him shirtless during the show?!

He'd be competing for Seven's role of sexpot eye candy. In ENT, it was Hoshi. In TOS, it was Kirk. In TNG it was...it was...it was either Deanna or Picard. In DS9, I think they went with the most butch to get more lesbians to vote, which gave it to Kira initially, but then, they brought that woman in to snog with the first Dax. But, when she married Worf because, they killed her off because it pissed off the high number of lesbians voting for Dax. So, they brought in Dax, part deux, but it was still a toss up between her and Kira and the producers couldn't fucking make up their minds, so they said 'fuck 'em all' and let the series run out. Before they started Voyager, there was a meeting and they all agreed 'We're going for the horny teen male vote on this one. Let's start with a lolita.' In Voyager, they tried it with Kes, but she wasn't bringing in enough votes. So, they decided to switch it after a few seasons to the 'older woman' thing for both young male teens and young male adults and horny teen girls and young women adults and young teen girls and young women adults with real emotional issues that need a dominatrix, too.

So, they fired her and brought in Seven. At this point, switching to Chakotey would have brought the voting down, but right at the end they thought 'let's put 2 pretty people together; let's take Seven and a guy that looks good with his shirt off, but we just won't show him with his shirt off to throw viewers for a loop; we've already thought of a species that ages backwards so, they're born as large, quivering bags of wrinkled flesh in a diaper and be an infant at death, so there's more room in their cemetaries and cut down on the cost of coffins, so their families can use their pitiful life insurance, so they don't have to worry about funeral costs and we won't have rotting corpses on the lawns and in the streets, even though the government will pick up the tab to bury the fuckers anyway, so there won't be decomposing flesh everywhere and a severe biohazard and cause a pandemic; We'll fuck with the viewers again.'

 

[missmanners]

As soon as we get Karma back, ^ thats the post that gets it.


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[Dual]

Voyager doesn't really merit discussion.

 

[jack]

If it's there, I can't find it. I have gone over every single dang thing I can find in the CP. Maybe I've been looking too hard and it's right under my nose.

take a peek ?

:who?me?:

mm

Um, darling...this is the "glitch" Mentalist supposedly fixed a couple eons ago (but didn't). Remember when Messenger and Menty squabbled over the glitch? It was the Heart Of Darkness as far as Karma was concerned, and those who learned quickly had fun. Messenger's technique was a nuclear fission bomb, and it was the Chaddarnook dual that exploited that effectively, owning the arcade completely and could deliver a 10 million point negative when "charged" properly.

I just figured out the geometry of duals after learning fast spam techniques from Gagh, and maxed out my karma on about 100 of them at one point, so I could deliver 20-30 million neg points in about ten minutes, but only every forty eight hours, because of the recharge time involved to karma at that level. So I'd make more duals and charge them up while the older ones recharged.

Then there was Karmageddon LULZ

Like I said, fun. I fucking loved it.

 

[Cacophony]

I'd karma you if I could for that Heart of Darkness reference.

 

[jack]

The idea that karma has any impact on posting is specious. It's beauty is in that spontaneity, something I always liked about it, as you just pointed out.

sigh, I'm going to bed, I have to finish training audit in the am.

 

[Eggs Mayonnaise]

Um, darling...this is the "glitch" Mentalist supposedly fixed a couple eons ago (but didn't). Remember when Messenger and Menty squabbled over the glitch? It was the Heart Of Darkness as far as Karma was concerned, and those who learned quickly had fun. Messenger's technique was a nuclear fission bomb, and it was the Chaddarnook dual that exploited that effectively, owning the arcade completely and could deliver a 10 million point negative when "charged" properly.

I just figured out the geometry of duals after learning fast spam techniques from Gagh, and maxed out my karma on about 100 of them at one point, so I could deliver 20-30 million neg points in about ten minutes, but only every forty eight hours, because of the recharge time involved to karma at that level. So I'd make more duals and charge them up while the older ones recharged.

Then there was Karmageddon LULZ

Like I said, fun. I fucking loved it.

I don't know what's sicker. That you loved it so, or that you have such a precise recollection of it.

You may claim to have a life, but I have to wonder what that life entails.

Maybe you should be rebanned, she would probably be doing you a favor.

 

[Enkephalen]

I liked being able to make a comment inside someone's post. Short, sweet, and appropriate to the post. Now you have to do that old clip, quote and comment. Me not happy.

And now we have to join a group? Why? Or was that changed mid-use?

Change. . .why?

 

[Grandtheftcow]

mm, you really shouldn't have to reset all of the karma by yourself. The reason you have other admins is so that they can take some of the workload off of yourself.

That being said, I'll kick GTC's e-ass if he doesn't start helping out more. He has off tonight, so he should have time to help out.

Can't do anything if no one mentions it to me. That might be another issue though.

 

[Gagh]

As soon as we get Karma back, ^ thats the post that gets it.


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That and the hilarious MORBO post further up.

 

[Gagh]

The idea that karma has any impact on posting is specious. It's beauty is in that spontaneity, something I always liked about it, as you just pointed out.

sigh, I'm going to bed, I have to finish training audit in the am.

It does have impact in posting. Numerous threads pimping for points. Numerous threads like those with that little twat Elnidfse whining about how he's bullied into the red.

To say it doesn't have an impact on the quality & content of posting is just a sheer falsehood. It makes people lazy.

 

[Ilyanna]

^ Is there anything wrong with those karma-whoring threads? I mean - really? It's not like they are difficult to avoid, if not the title, then the first posts will show you what they're about, right? Same with the whining: read the first post, then quit the thread if you don't wanna participate (hey, what a new concept! )

As to the posts main point (as far as i understand it): yep, they do have impact. Anything someone posts/comments has an impact. That's why one posts, anyway - to get a reaction.
That won't change one bit if the Karma system is gone. People will still comment, but they will do it by posting in the thread. We will have to wade through endless posts of multiple quotes, stuff quoted multiple times by different users just to add a "!" or "Cool" or "fuck you deep in the neck". Personally, I get really bored really fast if I have to see a picture or read a sentence for the umpteenth time, just because some poster wants to comment on it yet again.
Also, there are quite a lot of people who don't come to TK on a daily basis, myself included, so when they read a post they want to comment on, the thread might already have evolved to a completely different topic. How annoying do you think it will get if I started quoting those week-old posts just to say I appreciate them or LOL'd? (And I will do that, because a great post deserves a reaction imho).

And why do Karma comments make people lazy? They still have to type their comments, right? In fact, often enough I see people karma AND post an answer, which is kind of twice the work ?!?

IIRC, there is the neutral karma option for posters who haven't posted 20 or 50 or whatever posts, right? Can't you just raise that to a max level by default, so this pos/neg karma stuff stops? As far as I understood it, the gray karma doesn't add to the karma points. So a Karma War would be completely futile, but posters would still be able to comment, is that correct?

 

[Gagh]

^ Is there anything wrong with those karma-whoring threads? I mean - really? It's not like they are difficult to avoid, if not the title, then the first posts will show you what they're about, right? Same with the whining: read the first post, then quit the thread if you don't wanna participate (hey, what a new concept! )

Not really, but when there's plenty of them around, and still more get created, then it creates an issue. It swamps the board with meaningless tripe. I should know - I'm the main instigator of meaningless tripe around here.

That won't change one bit if the Karma system is gone. People will still comment, but they will do it by posting in the thread. We will have to wade through endless posts of multiple quotes, stuff quoted multiple times by different users just to add a "!" or "Cool" or "fuck you deep in the neck". Personally, I get really bored really fast if I have to see a picture or read a sentence for the umpteenth time, just because some poster wants to comment on it yet again.

Maybe so, but I see a lack of Karma as a way of getting people to communicate properly. I guess in the long run it doesn't make all that much difference, but I'd rather see a thread of conversation than a post with 10 several-word long comments under it. At least ask people to use a bit of brainpower when they choose to respond to something.

And why do Karma comments make people lazy? They still have to type their comments, right? In fact, often enough I see people karma AND post an answer, which is kind of twice the work ?!?

They do make people lazy. You have limited space to type a comment. It gets in the way of serious threads, where you can hammer in a snippy comment rather than post in a manner that would ask one to utilize a little thought first.

Of course, you could just quote the post and type the exact same thing. As I've said in this thread before, I'm not necessarily against a comment system - just the idea that points are attached to it.

The little bar, the points: these turn it into a competition for many, as opposed to a system of adding comment. That's what has affected the board as a majority, as opposed to simply having a comments system. That's what has made people lazy.

The fact there there's effectively a ranking system, creates status. Thereby if effects the behaviour of the board as a whole. For instance, the DLA shite wouldn't have happened if there were no points, or no positive or negative ranking added to Karma comments. The board would have had one less forum full of shit (The Badlands effectively rose out of the 'home' given to DLA duals), less duals, less hassle.

Take it from me. Remove the points. Remove the coloured bar. Remove the problem. What can you do with a comment under a post other than read it and take it at face value?

IIRC, there is the neutral karma option for posters who haven't posted 20 or 50 or whatever posts, right? Can't you just raise that to a max level by default, so this pos/neg karma stuff stops? As far as I understood it, the
gray karma doesn't add to the karma points. So a Karma War would be completely futile, but posters would still be able to comment, is that correct?

Great idea.

 

[GStone]

As soon as we get Karma back, ^ thats the post that gets it.


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I have to critique the shows I like. It did bring Trek back to its roots: exploration after all the war war war. But, I also defend the science in Threshold, that, while Nemesis was a good film, it just wasn't a good Trek film and I am the most vocal person I know that thinks the Federation actually has a chance of beating The Culture in a scifi versus debate and is willing to say it out right.

Some people think I'm psychotic.