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Republicans hate the poor.

Very true. Both parties have their bad apples and in reality, they both have a very similar agenda and that's themselves. However, as I've often stated in the past, there is one very big difference between the parties.

Republicans want all of the countries wealth in the hands of themselves and the top 10%. And they really don't care who they have to hurt to accomplish it. Democrats on the other hand want the same thing, but, they want to leave us common folk just enough so that when we decide it's time to storm the castles with our pitchforks and torches, it's not their gates we're knocking down.

I agree quite a bit with that. In my opinion, Republicans want to take all the money and dole it out from the top to the bottom, with the ones at the top getting the most. Democrats, on the other hand, want to take all the money from the "middle" and give it to those at the "bottom" while protecting the wealth and status of those at the "top."
 
I think you've got them switched around a bit. Republicans are intent on destroying the middle class in this country. They were against it and everything that created it in the first place. You also forget the staple of right wing economic policy. Reagan, or "Trickle Down" economics which by it's very principles gives wealth to those that already have it and, through their magnanimous actions, allows that wealth to flow down to the rest of us.

Which has never happened because the wealthy in this country don't care about anything except their own bottom line.

Democrats on the other hand, still support labor and the labor institutions that helped create the middle class in this country. They want higher tax rates on those who don't put back into the economy so the wealth does continue to flow around and provide for a stable economy. Their main failing is not working HARD enough to protect labor, unions and the consumer base in this country that keeps the system moving and giving in to both conservatives and the 1% money machine. What this country needs is more Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warrens and less Mitt Romney's, Paul Ryan's and Rand Paul's.
 
^ Pretty much. And that's part of the reason that Republicans have forgotten history. And because of that, they're hell bent on repeating it. Almost did under Bush.
 
And would again under any of the current crop of GOP candidates.

But on top of that, they want to bring us back to the days of Dickens, with fun nuggets like child labor and indentured servitude.

What middle class? It was a fad that died out. Now step right up and put your piddling 401k pension on the roulette table!
 
And would again under any of the current crop of GOP candidates.

But on top of that, they want to bring us back to the days of Dickens, with fun nuggets like child labor and indentured servitude.

What middle class? It was a fad that died out. Now step right up and put your piddling 401k pension on the roulette table!

I read an article about a year ago that was published by the John Birch Society and followed by ALEC and a few other extremists in government that outlined a specific intent to run up massive deficits that the government wouldn't be able to recover from. It was designed to bankrupt government and force an end to just about all government entitlements, social programs, and all governmental agencies and leave just enough to fund the DOD. As Grover stated "Make government small enough to drag it to the bathtub and drown it".

I honestly do think it's the game plan they followed under Bush and Cheney and it's the game plan they'll pick up again under total right wing control.
 
I read an article about a year ago that was published by the John Birch Society and followed by ALEC and a few other extremists in government that outlined a specific intent to run up massive deficits that the government wouldn't be able to recover from. It was designed to bankrupt government and force an end to just about all government entitlements, social programs, and all governmental agencies and leave just enough to fund the DOD. As Grover stated "Make government small enough to drag it to the bathtub and drown it".

I honestly do think it's the game plan they followed under Bush and Cheney and it's the game plan they'll pick up again under total right wing control.


Jesus, what the hell do they want to accomplish by that? Turn the world into some Mad Max/Fist of the North Star-style Social Darwinist Hellhole?
 
Jesus, what the hell do they want to accomplish by that? Turn the world into some Mad Max/Fist of the North Star-style Social Darwinist Hellhole?

So they can abolish everything established under Roosevelt's New Deal that went a long way towards solving the inequity problems in this country and brought us out of the Great Depression.

You have to remember, during the Great Depression, it's the little guys that were affected the most. The rich and powerful were still rich and powerful. And like the Great Recession, in the long run, they ended up getting even wealthier.
 
Rich white Judeo-Christian men are used to feeling safe and powerful, and are scared of being an endangered species with all the mongrel breeding going on. So they keep stacking and stacking the deck in their favor, blind to the consequences, as long as they think it means they still get to sit back and call the shots for the whole world.

Because Jesus was a blue-eyed white boy from Texas. Or something.
 
So, in other words, they're short-sighted, opportunistic plutocrats who will do anything to stay in power, even if it means they unwittingly plant the seeds of their own demise as well. And the demise of everyone around them.

Because Jesus was a blue-eyed white boy from Texas. Or something.

Speaking of Texas...
[video=youtube;QxP442T-aZ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxP442T-aZ0[/video]
 
I'm just not sure how I see generational dole as anything that actually helps families. Dependence doesn't do the dependent any favors. What does it do for them?
 
Oh, and yes, the hatred of Reagan, among other near-conservative or fully conservative politicians, is venomous. Yes, people who believe in you to do for yourself -- how dare they believe in you. Why, you're a victim. You should have a life of ease on the backs of those who sweat, those who labor. Why, it's your right to have them tote that bale, pick that cotton. Right? Them niggers ought to bend their necks and stop all that sass, right?
 
Oh, and yes, the hatred of Reagan, among other near-conservative or fully conservative politicians, is venomous. Yes, people who believe in you to do for yourself -- how dare they believe in you. Why, you're a victim. You should have a life of ease on the backs of those who sweat, those who labor. Why, it's your right to have them tote that bale, pick that cotton. Right? Them niggers ought to bend their necks and stop all that sass, right?
I can't even tell what you stand for in all that...just that you want yours.
 
Which just proves my point that the current approach of shaming and ghettoizing these people is wrong. That will just make it worse because it makes them feel even more disenfranchised.

And this "them" that people speak of are not the majority of recipients. That's another conservative bullet point.

No one stated that the majority of the recipients are committing welfare fraud. The ones that are however, do a good job of taking advantage of a program that is designed to help those in the short term. Social programs are designed to get people back on their feet, they are not designed for people to make a career out of.
 
Again, a minority of recipients. But the answer to that problem isn't slashing funds froim the program, it's fixing the program. Conservatives use that as their excuse to push for decimating or even killing any kinds of benefits altogether, and to weasel out of previously-promised deals with VETERANS, no less.

FDR took care of wartime veterans with government-created programs, and created the idea of a prosporous, forward-thinking middle class. Somehow, the middle class has become the enemy to conservatives. The so-called American dream is for everyone, but they sure don't stop themselves from trying to stack the deck against people that make them uncomfortable when walking alone at night.

Money plus irrational fear equals trickle-down economics. People who misinterpret (or worse, correctly interpret) Ayn Rand are now more dangerous than people who misinterpret Catcher in the Rye.
 
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