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The Hobbit The Hobbit THE HOBBIT

Hey so I saw The Hobbit 2: Back in The Hobbit today:

Right.

So, if you remember, I quite liked An Unexpected Journey. It had its faults, some quite big, but overall I enjoyed it. I watched the extended edition, and I also liked that.

So about this film, though...

Well, to start, I didn't like the first half of this film. At all. Which is a shame, as the first half of the film contains the probably some of my favourite stuff from the book (which is probably why I dislike how the film did it so much, to be fair).

The film starts with them running away from Azog into Beorn's house. It's all very rushed and they basically just run in and sleep, which means that it totally does away with the (much better) way the book does it, where Gandalf essentially tricks Beorn into letting all of the Dwarves stay. The whole Beorn scene is very, very rushed (the main problem with the first half of the film) and it's basically a five minute scene where they talk a bit and then he sends them on their way. If it wasn't for the fact that Beorn turns up again later in the next film then there's very little reason for the scene even being there, which is sad because Beorn's great.

Then they get into Mirkwood, and again it's all too rushed. There's some (pretty good) trippy stuff where the forest is making the msee things and generally go a bit mad, but it doesn't last long. In the book, by the time Bilbo pokes his head above the trees and sees a beautiful sunny sky (one of my favourite moments from the book), it works really well because by then we've spent so much time in the dark, oppressive forest that you really feel the relief. In the film it doesn't really play as well, as they only spend about ten minutes in Mirkwood.

The spider fight is okay... The spiders talk, which is great, and it looks great. But at no point does Bilbo ever say "Attercop!" or "You old Tomnoddy!" which is FUCKING BULLSHIT.

It's also where they start to play up the power of the ring, much more than the book ever did. This is fine, as when the book was written the ring wasn't The Ring. But now, in the context of The Lord of the Rings films, you need to remind people of the power and seduction of the ring, which Martin Freeman plays well.

Then the Elves come in. Oh dear. So, in the book, from what I remember, when the Dwarves and Bilbo and wandering around Mirkwood they keep coming across a group of Elves having a giant party in the woods, who then disappear because they're assholes. None of this is in the film, instead it's Legolas, doing the usual over the top Legolas stunts, and Tauriel rescuing the Dwarves from the spiders. When she's introduced, Tauriel is great.

The Elf parts are the worst parts of the film, in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, Lee Pace as Thranduil is great, really great, but so much of it is dedicated to Legolas and especially to the really fucking dumb Legolas/Tauriel/Kili stuff.

Right, okay, these Mirkwood elves are supposed to be wild party animals, but none of that is ever seen. There's a scene where Tauriel says "Oh they're having a huge party upstairs it's wild!!" but we never see it. Instead we see really awkward and clumsy scenes of Tauriel talking Kili (the annoying "attractive dwarf") while Legolas watches and makes a sad face (although Orlando Bloom still can't emote). This is the major problem with Tauriel - having a badass girl elf who kills things is great, especially as she's basically the only female character in the film and especially because Evangeline Lilly plays her really well. But to make her entire plot arc be "OH WHICH GUY SHOULD I FALL IN LOVE WITH~~~" totally ruins the whole thing. Why can't she just be a cool elf girl who kills stuff? Why does her character have to revolve around men? Why does the whole thing have to feel so utterly, utterly useless?

Bilbo rescues them - and again, they've only just been imprisoned by the time they're rescued - and they escape in barrels. Yes, yes, the barrel tops are open, but honestly I think that works better as it means you can actually see your actors doing things, which is always good for a film. As the elves chase them the orcs attack (it should be noted that by this point Azog has been called back to Sauron and his son, Bolg, takes his place. It literally makes no difference as it's just replacing one CGI orc saying "GET THE DWARVES" with another one who looks slightly different) and the elves fight the orcs along the river as the Dwarves float by in their barrels. It's actually a really nice action scene, even if it is full of the stupid Legolas over the top action stuff - I feel that stuff works better in The Hobbit than it did in LotR, simply due to the different tones of the films.

During this escape, Kili gets shot in the leg (THIS IS IMPORTANT) and Tauriel makes a sad face because of LOVE ANGST and then Legolas tries to have an emotion but Orlando Bloom.

They escape, they meet Bard and Bard's all "Hey guys I DON'T TRUST YOU but let me smuggle you into Laketown with a comedy scene involving fish". The Laketown stuff is good. Steven Fry as the mayor is good. Things are picking up. No, really, they are, the film's getting good. I'm enjoying it. OH WAIT WHAT'S THIS, TAURIEL IS FOLLOWING THE DWARVES? BECAUSE SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT KILI'S LEG??? AND LEGOLAS IS FOLLOWING HER??? FUCK YOU.

Yeah so, when the Dwarves leave Laketown they leave Kili behind because of his leg. And Fili stays with him. So does Gloin. And Bofur. They stay behind. Fuck you, Kili.

It should be noted that, by now, there's been one scene of Gandalf and Radagast looking around the tombs of the Ringwraiths and going "oh they're all gone!!". I still like Radagast, so that's good. Then Gandalf goes to Dol Guldur and looks around a bit. He meets The Necromancer (SPOILERS: IT'S SAURON!!!!!!) and they have a pretty cool magic fight. That's it for Gandalf for this film.

RIGHT SO the Dwarves get to Erebor. It's starting to get good again. Seriously, all the stuff of the Dwarves in Erebor is great, it's exactly what it should be. I love it, I really do. The only downer is that they keep cutting back to Laketown so we can see how Kili is doing and AHHH FUCK YOU KILI FUCK FUCK FUCK I HATE THIS SUBPLOT.

Bilbo goes in to meet Smaug. It's excellent. Really really good. Everything you could have hoped for. Exactly what it needed to be. Smaug is brilliant - he looks great, he sounds great, he is great. For all the other bullshit in this film, Smaug basically totally redeems it. Bilbo and Smaug are talking and being really really good but OOHHH WAIIITTTTTTT Orcs are attacking Laketown AND HERE'S FUCKING LEGOLAS AGAIN and Tauriel tries to heal Kili and they have really really really awkward romantic diologue and seriously Peter why am I not watching Smaug right now I don't care about any of this bullshit FUCK WHAT THE FUCK MORE LEGOLAS??? FUCK YOU. HE KILLS BOLG??? FUCK YOU.

Then there's a really good action scene with Smaug and the dwarves in the mines of Erebor. It's basically what the Goblin Town scene should have been like, action packed and frantic but also really good! Mainly because Smaug is still really, really great.

By the end of it Smaug is really pissed off and the film ends with him on the way to Laketown to wreck some shit. It's a great ending.


So on the whole... I don't know about this film. When it works, it really works. It works exactly like you hoped it would. But the fact that the stuff at the start is so rushed, and that time was instead taken up by a totally unnecessary and stupid romance sub-plot is such a bummer. This should not have been a film where Legolas gets much, much more time than Beorn and Thranduil, but here it is.


But, also, Smaug is amazing.
 
So I don't want to keep saying "IN THE BOOK..." but I'll probably have to. I also believe even just as a stand alone movie, ignoring the book, there's a lot of faults with this movie. Like the fact that it doesn't work as a stand alone movie. I'll just have to go through it all scene by scene LIKE TOMTREK then...

The opening scene is good, but it is kind of another "hey remember Fellowship Of The ring?" scene. I can only assume the man munching the carrot is the grandfather of the identical man seen in Fellowship...

Azog catches up with our heroes really fast despite them getting a lift from some eagles. Beorn...meh. I can understand why they didn't do it like the book as it would have taken some time and it was basically a recap of their adventures. But what they could have done is capture some of the charm of the book. But they don't. Beorn's just another brooding "dark brooding" guy with a history with Azog. He doesn't even have his dog butlers. Dog butlers are cool. And how does that manacle stay on his arm when he changes shape?

Mirkwood I agree was disappointing. It doesn't feel that much like an enchanted forest. They just get lost in a conventional way rather than by chasing elves and trying to eat their food. Bombur doesn't fall in the water(!) The spider scene was pretty good, but really if I hadn't read the book I would wonder what the point of it was. IN THE BOOK it's where Bilbo first finds his courage and uses his sword (and they at least kept in him naming the sword Sting) and earns the respect of the dwarves, but he already did that in the first movie. Then Legolas shows up sliding all over the place...

Why is Legolas such a dick? Why is he all "YOUR WIFE AND SON ARE UGLY EWW"? Is it because he's supposed to be younger? He's like 600 years old! My problem witht he elves being such dicks is that they don't seem like fun, whimsical wood elves having feasts and laughing at dwarves and having wild elf parties (they mention a party but we don't see it!) And yeah Orlando Bloom isn't much of an actor and he's noticable chubbier and his eyes look weird.

Evangeline Lilly on the other hand is a good actress and does a really good job as Tauriel. It's just a shame that ends up as pretty much a love triangle even after Peter Jackson promised her she wouldn't be in a love triangle when she signed up for the movie.

Anyway I guess Thranduil had a fight with a dragon sometime and now he's a bit mad? These scenes show Lee Pace should be a lot of fun as Ronan The Accuser in Guardians Of The Galaxy anyway.

Then there's the barrel bit. I'd heard about Legolas killing nine million orcs so when he only killed eight million I thought "well that wasn't as bad as people said." It's a fun sequence mostly (if a bit too long) but by the point where Bombur is bouncing around in a barrel knocking down lined up Orcs I was wondering where these hundreds of orcs came from and why they were all lined up down the river. The number of orcs with Azog/Bolg never seems consistant.

Also what was with the weird first person shots of the river that looked like "real world" rather than Middle Earth?

And yeah Bolg was just pretty generic. He made Azog look interesting. And in my continued stalking of Connan Stevens I noticed that he wasn't credited as Bolg at all (some other guy was.) PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN GAME OF THRONES EH.

It seems to take them a really really long time to get into Laketown. Longer than they spent with Beorn and Mirkwood combined. Bard gets another "is he friend or foe!" tense music introduction. The actor is pretty good. But I still don't think they needed to overcomplicate Bard this much and make him a master smuggler/rebel leader/descendant of a disgraced dragonslayer/single father of children who say "Da!" too much. Oh and he already knows about Smaug's weakspot and Bilbo discovering it doesn't matter now and that's another way Bilbo's usefulness is reduced.

SPEAKING OF there's quite a long stretch of the movie, from the scene where he jumps into a barrel to the arrival at the Lonely Moutain where Bilbo doesn't do anything. He's just standing there. He doesn't even get a cold LIKE IN THE BOOK.

Bofur gets left behind because they couldn't just wake him up(?) then goes to Bard and says "no one else will help us!" about Fili even though a few minutes ago they were the honoured guests of Stephen Fry so why is it suddenly "no one else will help us!"?

And since we're at the Lonely Mountain here's another random irritation: too many moments where characters appear out of nowhere. Apart from the nine hundred orcs on the riverbank there's the bit where Gandalf is sliding around the really hard to access tomb then he turns round and Radagast is just standing there somehow. But worse is the part where the dwarves start walking back down the mountain, Biblo runs to tell them about the keyhole and looks down the side but there's NO SIGN OF THEM, Bilbo accidentally kicks the key away...and Thorin is right there to stop it with his foot. Did the dwarves have a transporter?

THEN THE SMAUG SCENE: Yeah this is the best part of the movie. Smaug looks and sounds great. Bilbo finally has a moment to shine. I did wonder why he bothered hiding behind pillars and stuff instead of putting on his ring. But it's an exciting sequence. HOWEVER I'm sorry but I don't think the dwarves fighting Smaug was an entirely successful sequence. Like firstly it makes the secret passage pointless since they end up just running around Erebor anyway and they might as well have just come in the front door. And after making Smaug so scary in the scene with Bilbo, there's too many parts where he's about to kill a dwarf but another shouts "over here!" and he turns his head without just shooting them with fire. It makes Smaug look kind of weak. He doesn't even kill their ponies LIKE IN THE BOOK. There part where Thorin nearly falls in his mouth is exciting though and the chase stuff alone could have been fine but it just seems to keep going on...

It doesn't help that it's intercut with more of Legolas killing Orcs. There's a lot of decapitations. Too many probably? Oh and did I mention that Tauriel heals Fili like Arwen healing Frodo and she glows to remind you of Fellowship Of The Ring? We also get Stephen Fry randomly deciding to arrest Bard at this point. Why didn't he just do it years ago if he didn't need a reason?

So here's the main problem with the dwarf plan: Thorin doesn't explain it to the audience or to the other dwarves even though it seems like a really convoluted plan. Did he just come up with it on the fly or what? Who knows, here's a giant gold statue! And it melts on Smaug...and he shakes it off. Right away. Like after five seconds. We don't even get a tease that he might be dead. I think it was quite confusing really. It's so ineffectual that it's not clear what the dwarves were trying to do (okay I guess they were trying to ecnase him in molten gold.) It makes you think "what was the point of all that" when Smaug can just shake it off in seconds. Then instead of just killing the dwarves he flies off to Lake Town because "I want you to watch them die!" and the movie ends. It seems a bit of a flimsy reason (in the book they hid in the secret tunnel the movie seems to have forgotten and that's why he can't kill them) and if I was just watching this with no knowledge of the book would this seem like a natural place to end it? I don't think so.

Also the music was pretty lacking? They didn't even play "Misty Mountains Cold" again.

SO YEAH I'm still sticking to my "should have been two movies" (really it could have been one movie if they were willing to cut stuff instead of adding stuff but that was never going to happen and I think two could have worked well) opinion. There's a lot of enjoyable stuff in this movie (oh fuck I totally forgot to mention Gandalf: I like the mystical fight with Sauron even though I was expecting him to say "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" on the bridge and I don't konw why he didn't just go and get Galadriel and Elrond instead of rushing in to an obvious trap but the parts with him walking around Dol Guldor were good okay I mentioned Gandalf) and it all looks great (except Bolg) but it feels a lot less like The Hobbit than the first movie and it's a shame they weren't interested in trying to capture the feeling of THE BOOK at all.
 
Oh I forgot the front door to Erebor is sealed (I guess Smaug burst through it at the end) so they have to use the tunnel to get in...I don't remember why they didn't just run back up the tunnel but there was probably a reason.

Anyway I rewatched the first trailer because I remembered something about it...

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Everything looks good except that really shit part with Legolas sliding. Fuck Legolas.

You can see Azog on the bridge over the river (in the barrel scene.) It also looks like Gandalf is fighting practical Bolg at Dol Goldur. So the decision to switch Bolg and Azog must have been made really late. I wonder why (my best guess: to give Legolas another fight scene.)
 
tghe part where Kili said "I COULD HAVE ANYTHING IN ME TROUSERS" was shit and Tolkien would have vomitted in rage
 
As a non-book person I enjoyed it overall (and, infact, even including the Kili/Tauriel scenes... But that might've been due to Evangeline Lily's mesmeric beauty and surprisingly good Elvish accent), but I did find it knee-achingly long and the end scenes with the dwarves trying to kill Smaug baffled me since it was CLEARLY signposted that the arrow was the only method so there was no tension and Smaug was made to look like an idiot. I mean, his first scenes with Bilbo were brilliant and created this menacing, powerful intellect, only for him to be fooled by childish distraction techniques. And there were umpteen moments when he could've fried someone but started practically having a bloody chat with them instead.

Anyway, so the barrel roll is one of the greatest moments of cinema.
 
She is a mesmeric beauty!

It's good to know that NON BOOK PEOPLE thought the same thing about the ending Smaug bit.
 
The third movie has been renamed from "There And Back Again" to "The Battle of the Five Armies". Which is a better title but maybe still not punchy enough (I know it's from the book.)
 
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Can't believe they added a subplot where Pippin travels back in time to sing to them!
 
I think this looks excellent. I used to have an excuse to go and see them with my Son. I missed Desolation due to him being 13 and having "mates". I must make an effort to go and see this.
 
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